Not sure about grabbing that beer? You’re not alone. Americans are reaching for alcohol at record lows, according to a new Gallup survey.

The survey, out Aug. 20, found the number of Americans who say they drink alcohol sits at 54% for the second consecutive year − and health concerns appear to be a major factor.

“Fifty-one percent of U.S. adults now believe drinking one or two alcoholic beverages a day is bad for one’s health,” the survey results noted. “The figure is essentially unchanged from last year’s record-high 53%.”

In 2001, only 27% considered moderate drinking bad for one’s health, according to Gallup.

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    From 1997 to 2023, at least 60% of Americans reported drinking alcohol. The figure fell to 62% in 2023 and to 58% in 2024, before reaching 54% today. Prior to the most recent poll, the rate has been under 60% fewer than 10 times, including 58% in the initial 1939 poll and a one-time low of 55% recorded in 1958.

    “weird” that usatoday leaves all this important information out lol. “record lows” still means half the population are boozers and the number was never much higher.

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    I like wine with dinner, maybe a nice homemade cocktail on weekends. All this talk of prohibition makes me uneasy. Ban alcohol today, what will you ban tomorrow?

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    If you find it hard to reduce, check out the Sinclair method to cut down or quit over time, with a medication an hour before a drink. Understand the chemistry of our brains and how to use for good. Lots of NA options now too that can help but watch out for replacement drinks with added sugars that hurt the liver too. Look up which treatment options work best based on the data and which might work for you.

    If you want to join a group, look for ones that use researched-based what helps people with addictions the most and avoid conditional belonging with forced words/thought. Look for groups and people in life that use Sagan’s baloney detection kit to analyze problems and possible solutions based on verifiable data, not supernatural threats or promises of rewards later for suffering now, which high-control systems use to hijack the brain.

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    I had to make a choice about 5 or 6 years ago, keep drinking and die, or stop drinking and live.

    Trump had just been voted out.

    I wish I hadn’t quit.

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    I never had any interest in drinking alcohol, the smell is horrible and while you can supposedly push through and acclimate to it fairly easily and there are mixes that will mask that harsh scent/taste I never really saw a reason to do that since there were very clear examples around me of people screwing up their entire lives with alcohol.

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    Health concerns? Maybe being priced out of the market? Canada stops buying, price goes up for americans, easy-peasey, lemon-squeezy.

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      I think social media has affected this as well. Video and pictures mean people don’t want to embarrass themselves as much. Also, marijuana is legal in a lot of places and doesn’t mix with alcohol as well for everyone.

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    I wonder how this currently matches the actual quantity people are drinking. Historically the “how much do you drink” and sales records indicated massive under estimation to the point this might really be people are drinking what they said they were in 2001.

    That said alcohol is a mood amplifier for me… So I avoid entirely if not in a good mood… And really have been enjoying the na beers, not as good as a nice craft beer but when I feel like a beer while watching something at home or playing video games hits close enough without the mind altering part (and if I want to do anything later in the evening and its a weekend this is a good thing)

    I certainly am not avoiding a good drink at the bar, see no real reason to think one drink day is particularly bad if that is what you are actually doing (the headlines on the recent health studies are overblown, not saying the science is wrong but nuance in science reporting is awful as usual) but if you are not enjoying it really no reason to have it just because.

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      If you had to pick either healthy or unhealthy, a drink a day would fall under unhealthy, but it also might be statistically irrelevant due to having such a small impact.

      I do think its worth noting that alcohol does actually change its effects the more you drink though. The effects of intoxication don’t just increase, they cascade to other parts of the brain. Someone who consistently stays under one drink is essentially on a different drug than someone who draws the line at three.

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        So the point of the recent research is they find no benefits at any level, at or less than 1 a day very little impact. Also it’s large population studies so and all cause mortality so exact relations are not in the studies… And I could have many practices of infrequent drinkers it be interesting to control for before loosing sleep over a drink some evenings… And a non alcoholic drink others. (Although avoiding alcohol late in the evening improves sleep so)

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      There is not a lot of nuance. No amount of alcohol is beneficial to your body’s function. Any amount is harmful. Pulling out the magnifying glass looking for additional nuance smacks of motivated reasoning.

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        But is the risk more or less then crossing the busy American strode… Is it accounting for how you travel too or from the bar this is the nuance… And the paper has it the artical does not

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    I don’t drink booze, because it seems like an expensive habit. I don’t got any friends nor go to bars, so it is likely going to be a miserable experience. Also, one of my parents was an absolute boozehound, and certainly not someone to be respected. So I avoid alcohol, because I don’t know what kind of person I would be.

    It is just disadvantages all around, with no upside for me.

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    When it comes to American society at large, I suspect that capitalism is the root of why alcohol use is dropping. Third spaces are going extinct, budgets are tighter, time is limited, and work demands greater effort to make ends meet, and most people lose their childhood friendships as adults. The opportunity to enjoy booze is dying.

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      It’s pretty easy to tell you are in a room of people having fun and enjoying themselves. The last time I enjoyed going to a bar was in March of 2020. It is nothing like it was before. Prices are sky high, and the average bar is still relatively empty, in comparison dead, and the energy level is pretty non existent. The age mix skews much older than before.

      For busy, packed bars that have lineup in the streets, the age is much lower, prices are even higher. After waiting in line, which feels absurd since there are so many empty bars even across the street, everyone seems most concerned with updating their social media allegedly having a good time. The DJ is there, music is loud, but the patrons aren’t.
      So have a couple drinks, spend 100 bucks, and wake up with a headache. Yeah, it’s shit.

      We are also in a pure surveillance state, everything we do is recorded so it is risky. What used to be a gaffe could be a career ending viral moment today.

      Conversations with strangers is now the worst, complaining about rent, prices of everything, Trump, late stage capitalism, immigration , woke is destroying the world, libtards, investing in gold, or actually more enjoyable - an inebriated 60 year old with intentions, that constantly repeating themselves like an llm with 2 messages of context history. Until they finally make their move you see coming like a train wreck in slow motion.

      And finally, the alcohol companies have lost control of the narrative, like tobacco, they spent heavily on funding studies that found alcohol has health benefits (in some amount) and rained legal threats on anyone saying what has been known for decades:

      Alcohol consumption causes cancer.

      This is in addition to what everyone has known forever, even moderate consumption often results in injury from falling or assault, get in a car - death (of other people), and while men don’t usually think about it, sexual assault.

      It’s all a buzz kill.

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        Alcohol causes more than cancer, it’s behind most liver diseases and it’s a potent neurotoxin.

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    I was shocked when I visited a moderately sized to maybe small US city and had a drink with a friend to find out the bill with tip was $45. No wonder Americans aren’t drinking.

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    I wish they would just ban it tbh, i still feel forced to drink once in a blue moon at a wedding or something. It’s poison you guys, zero medical usage, leads to violence, one of the only drugs where withdrawal can kill you. It’s just about the worst drug out there.

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        I know that’s why i said “i wish”, it’s an emotional response. Of course you cant ban it because that makes it worse somehow, but it’s really a more dangerous drug than cocaine and heroin and all the science backs that up.

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      It depends. I have an occasional drink. Is it awesome for my health? No. Do I think that a drink every week or two has any noticeable effect on my health? No. Have I had problem drinking behaviors in the past? Yes. Was that detrimental to my physical & mental health. Absolutely. Moderation is the main factor here.

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      I wish it was not considered cool and acceptable to advertise the most destructive drug on the planet in public, in front of addicts and children; one that has taken years of life from virtually everyone’s loved ones leaving us alone with regret. When Ford changed the rules so that there could be vendors at my local farmer’s market shouting at people to buy their alcohol on the fucking public sidewalk, I was so pissed off. I go there because it’s the only way I can afford to eat healthy food a couple days a week and I have no option to just go someplace else. Not that they have left me any place.

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      Its one of the few drugs that actually gets worse the more you use it. We should be more honest and strict about how much someone should be allowed to drink, especially in public. Alcohol should be given an extremely short leash.

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        Its one of the few drugs that actually gets worse the more you use it.

        That’s literally all drugs. The dose is the poison.

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          No, it changes effects. Most other drugs the effects just get stronger and stronger. For example the respiratory depression from opiates progresses to the point breathing isn’t achievable. Alcohol progressively affects different parts of the brain, which causes different effects. So you have both the current effects worsening, plus adding more as you go that also get worse.

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    If alcohol came out today, it would be illegal. It kills more people than all drugs combined. It’s terrible for you and 10% of drinkers account for 90% of all alcohol sales. I just wish I could stop.

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      Yes alcohol, sugar and automobiles are the big killers that we seem to just accept in an “oh well” kind of way. We came a long way on smoking so I’m optimistic about alcohol. “Record lows” doesn’t impress me as a phrase because I know how high the historic highs actually were 🤣

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      Keep wanting to quit, I think that’s the most important thing, keep the desire to quit alive. Especially when you stop. I’d put money on you pulling through brother!

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      It isn’t easy at first, but the pivotal moment is merely wanting to stop. You may not believe it yourself, addiction has this way of convincing you that you can’t, but it gets easier with time.

      It’s been three years or so, but my life has turned around so much it’s astounding. Highly recommend believing in yourself, and pushing through the tough days.

      Stay kind to yourself friend

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      Word. My Friday evening beer math:

      I always try to stick to one beer. These days I manage to not exceed a couple.

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      Hollywood needs to stop using it in every fucking scene. Two characters cannot have a conversation with beers to scotch, no cop comes home without cracking open a beer.

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        I’ve noticed that recently too. I watched “Life in Pieces” recently and it’s like every other scene this family is drinking.

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          It’s everywhere. Latest season of Reacher has at least 5 scenes per episode of people drinking.

          Someone dies, drink, someone is sad, drink, someone is happy, drink, someone is nervous, drink, two characters developing a relationship, drink. Hollywood writers have no other mechanism to convey emotions.

          Two wealthy people cant have a conversation without pouring from a crystal decanter of scotch…CEO offices have a full bar and people drink all day. Even superheroes are drunks now.

          And of course, every male over 50 is burned out alcoholic in TV and movies. What would happen if alcohol was not allowed on screen like cigarettes?

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        Thank you for this. I plan to share it with people in my community who want to quit, but are struggling.

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        I tried SMART meetings. I felt as if the people there had significantly worse trauma and alcoholism than me and it made me feel like since I wasn’t as bad as them that I should still be able to keep drinking. When I have stopped drinking in the past, focusing on what’s wrong with me doesn’t help me focus on the positives and moving forward. Everyone is different though.

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          I initially got a similar feeling at meetings that others had it significantly worse, but that just made me feel better that I was getting some help before reaching that point. Nobody ever makes me feel that I didn’t belong, though. The journey really is different for everyone.

          I prefer SMART to guilt-based programs like AA since it focuses more on progress with a basis in science.

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      Alcohol never had any sort of attraction to me thankfully. I don’t really like having an altered mental state in the first place, and I never found a beer that I liked until I was 23. I’m 45 now and I’ve been drunk 3 times in my life and each time I was just wishing the effect would wear off. But I do have addictions, just other sorts of things. Wish you luck and strength in your journey.

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      They don’t care if you live or die. They care about if their rich buddies are still getting your money.

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          Always wanted to try and didn’t get an opportunity until a few weeks back. I didn’t stop totally, I still have a beer for meals that call for it, but I pretty effortlessly vastly reduced my drinking. Like, even the standard here in my part of Europe, what Americans call “tall boys”, is a little too much at once, I can only do a short can. Being drunk just does not feel good afterward to me. That wasn’t planned, so I don’t think it’s placebo, just kind of happened.

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      You can stop right now.

      Edit: You guys are right. It’s better to resign yourself to doom and give up. I guess my case was miraculous. Self control wasn’t a factor. No one has ever quit drinking successfully.

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        You don’t know how much they’re drinking. At a certain intake level, suddenly stopping can kill you. So just telling them “you can stop right now” is misleading and dangerous.

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          I dunno… I used to drink pretty heavily (several drinks per night) and then cut back to less than one drink per month. Never felt a single ill effect.

          I understand that’s anecdotal, and I’m sure some people do have dts and withdrawal, but I doubt every person who quits drinking will suffer severe side effects, just like I don’t believe anyone has ever hallucinated pink elephants from drinking too much.

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            Your very first sentence is very correct. “I dunno…” Yeah. You don’t. You followed it up with a bunch of “I, me, my” and can’t understand that someone may have a different issue than you.

            I don’t drink daily. I’m a binge drinker. I convince myself that it will only be a few this weekend and go on a bender every time. I can’t stop lying to myself. I keep telling myself I’ll quit next weekend and do it all over again. Cut back? I cut back every week.

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              We are the same.

              I did 11 months last year and thought I could “reintroduce”. It was good at first, I still kept my Fri Sat rule but then it crept and as I watched my weight loss regain and my control loosen it wasn’t so good.

              Now I’m just trying to avoid going back to my lowest which is like major blackouts and no sleep. Puking.

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              Unfortunately it will probably get worse before it gets better. I wasn’t even a heavy drinker, but when I started seeing shadows jumping and little flicks of light out of the corner of my eyes, that’s when I called it quits. Turns out that’s a symptom of alcohol withdrawal.

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            You’re an idiot spreading an admitted anecdote. Use your phone and look it up before you spread your ignorance to other people.

            Alcohol and benzo withdrawal can be incredibly dangerous and medical professionals should be consulted whenever possible.

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              Booze, Benzos, and Barbituates: the three deadly “B”s, merely cessation from which can kill.

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              If people are getting medical advice from lemmy they have bigger problems. And at least I called it out as anecdotal. Go rage somewhere else.

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        The other horrible thing about alcohol compared to most other drugs is that quitting when addicted can kill you. In many cases special care is needed to ween, which is kinda a thing alcoholism doesn’t facilitate.

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          As far as I’m aware, the only other drug class aside from alcohol, whose withdrawals can kill you are benzodiazepines.

          I was in rehab once with someone who had a terrible Xanax addiction. They had to wean him off, and he still had psychotic episodes where he would hallucinate some very bizarre things accompanied by these terrible panic attacks while they weaned him off, not to mention the seizures he would have.

          They eventually stopped, but the first few weeks he was there were an absolute nightmare for him.

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            Yup, people always talk about opiate withdrawals, and they are awful, but they don’t usually kill you directly. It’ll make you want to die, and that sometimes does people in, but in terms of directly killing you not so much. Alcohol and benzos absolutely will.

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          This is true. A medical hospital can assist but it will be straight drugs and monitoring. You’ll sit in a room with a TV and whatever books or electronic devices you bring with you. Outpatient support? Maybe. Probably not.

          A mental health hospital will monitor you and provide the drugs to keep you out of danger. Little room time. No electronic devices. Group therapy. Exploration of why you’re drinking with some Coping Skills 101 training. Discharge plan to include outpatient support.

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          That special care seems to be ativan, in my area. It’s not replacing the poison, it’s calming the neurological side - effects of detox.

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        Everyone is aware there are steps they can take to get free of whatever substance they are dependent on. If it were as simple as that, addiction wouldn’t be the scourge that it is.

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        You think if I could, that I just wouldn’t? No. I have been trying for years and can’t. I may not get withdrawal symptoms, but the societal pressures and habits drive me back to it.

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          Only reason I still use Reddit is because of R/stopdrinking… my virtual little AA meeting whenever I want/need it.

          I was a daily drinker for 10 years, and the last few were… well if I kept it to a fifth of cheap canadian whisky a day, I was “doing well.” 🙄 , I didn’t do well most days.

          Anyway, I was sittin on the couch one day, thinking about string theory. about how our decisions create little offshoots of different realities, and I thought about the string where I kept drinking, and where it might would lead.

          Went into the kitchen, poured out the handle I had in the freezer. I remember looking into the sky… it was so blue.

          From then on I only used weed and shrooms. Shrooms for figuring out big stuff, going through traumatic shit from my past. Weed sometimes did that too. Have you heard of EMDR? it’s where you just sit and follow a light bouncing from side to side. Well I’d get real high, sit on my Marcy recumbent stationary bike, and play Mariokart on my old Nintendo 64. And shit, I swear that acted as a perfect EMDR machine. I’d be on there dissociating, thinking about shit, making major breakthroughs.

          Anyway, this year I finally found the courage to face the trauma from my past, confronting my past abuser, then confronting my parents that ignored it… and you know what? went from smoking weed almost everyday to… not. Like at all. I just don’t feel the need anymore. It’s crazy. My life isn’t perfect, but it’s so much better it’s nuts.

          I dunno. just my own story. Hope you get there someday, brother. I promise it’s worth it.

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    Weed is legal in more places than ever. People are aware of cycles of abuse and trauma, we don’t want to keep repeating the sins of our alcoholic parents. And now recovery is out in the open like never before, regular folks and celebs both openly talking about their journeys.

    There’s a big class of folks like myself who don’t do hard drugs, don’t drink, but will use cannabis and hallucinogens, maybe dissociatives. This is pretty reflective of our times - we’re disconnected, our journeys are isolated, our experiences tend to be isolated. So these drugs work well for that, without being destructive like drinking alone is.

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      I keep wondering if “just weed and occasional hallucinogens” will actually be an available path for the next generation. I think it’s reasonable advice but I don’t know what’s out there and available to them. It seems like a broader spectrum of shit than ever and things get mixed together. Can you still just buy an 8th of weed in a sandwich bag anymore? Can you get a paper tab of acid without worrying what else is in it?

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      Weed is legal in more places than ever.

      I will say from experience though that long term, chronic, heavy use of weed comes with its own problems, though. Probably not as bad as alcohol, but pretty unfun still.

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        I agree with this statement but looking back I have to admit that I’m not sure the chronics I knew were actually suffering the effects of their heavy weed use or if the heavy weed use was just comorbid with their other problems.

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        And like alcohol, people do respond to it differently. It’s not an amazing option for just anybody, even though it may be a wonder drug for some.

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        In Canada, we are seeing all kinds of cannabis syndromes in ER, with psychosis and schizophrenia on a steep rise. The problem is the dose, 60s weed had 2% THC, but shops sell very highly concentrated THC. Government won’t regulate it because the whole point of legal weed was to make investors rich.

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          I absolutely believe this and that was my unscientific conclusion as well; a lot of the previous study we have on the safety of cannabis is with comparatively very low THC amounts. Some of the new study isn’t so rosy, as I recall (though it’s been some years since I’ve looked at it). My experience after 10+ years of few issues was a very bad panic attack bordering on psychotic episode. Though it is much better a few years later, I still have issues with panic and dpdr I didn’t have before which were very crippling in the months after the event. I can’t really mess with weed anymore and encourage youngers to at least watch their THC intake.

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            With teens, there is very really effects of brain development. Also, despite what Reddit/Lemmy will tell you there are cannabis addicts. Canadian government admits to 5% of users, but the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health puts the number at 10-30%.

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              Also, despite what Reddit/Lemmy will tell you there are cannabis addicts.

              Being one, you’ll get no disagreement from me. I can’t have just one, I’ll be stoned non stop until I run out. I tried starting with more healthy and measured use at least a half a dozen times… no dice. It’s binge until gone for me.

              It’s a bit more insidious than alcohol, because the impacts are less obvious in the short term imo, and there’s less acknowledgement it can be a problem because Bob Saget said a funny line once. It’s a slow burn.

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      Yup. There’s a reason ABC and Total Wine have a whole isle dedicated to THC drinks. People don’t not use drugs anymore, they just found a cleaner drug.

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      Conversely, I do amphetamines (legally, prescription) and still occasionally drink. At the height of my drinking I’d have 3 drinks in a night (usually more like 1-2), maybe 4-5 nights a week, but the rule has always been that I would only drink if I felt safe to do so, had something else to do (while drinking), and most importantly, am not in any negative mood or depressed. These days I only really drink for celebrations, and looking around there isn’t much left to celebrate. I still drink occasionally, but it’s been down to like 1 drink every other week, with company (and only mead, my body can’t handle beer or even wine anymore).

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    I was just reading a thing about this the other day.

    For decades, scientists told people that 1 to 2 drinks per day is better for your health than 0 drinks per day. They determined this by asking a ton of people how much they drank, and then asking about their health repeatedly over a long period of time. And they found what they called a J-curve. Basically when they plotted drinks per day vs health over time, people who had 0 drinks per day actually had slightly worse health outcomes than the 1-2 crowd.

    So everybody agreed that light drinking was better than no drinking. This became guidance from governments, it got repeated on the news all the time, and it was a huge boon for the alcohol industry.

    However, in recent years, scientists went back to take a closer look at this J-curve, and they noticed an obvious thing that wasn’t accounted for initially: some people who don’t drink have existing health conditions that prevent them from drinking. And some people that don’t drink are in recovery: they’d spent decades being heavy drinkers and just didn’t drink now. But damage had been done, and worse health outcomes were to be expected.

    Once scientists started to correct for these cases, the J-curve disappeared. Not drinking at all was suddenly clearly the safest thing for longterm health outcomes. So that’s been the new guidance coming down from agencies and health organizations.

    That said, the difference in risk between 0 drinks per day and 2 drinks per day is significantly less than the difference between 2 drinks per day and 5 drinks per day. It’s riskier than not drinking, but we do plenty of risky shit because it’s fun or easy or convenient. See: driving, flying, eating fast food, etc. So, yes, a complete ascetic chasing immortality may not want to drink, but for most people occasional light drinking is an acceptable risk.

    Edit: Autocorrect-induced typo

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      how much they drank, and then asking about their health

      this kinda read as if they asked them about there health while they were drunk :) Would have made for an interesting curve.

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      So, yes, a complete ascetic chasing immorality may not want to drink

      Either you’re missing a ‘t’ or you’re chasing immorality the wrong way.

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      scientists told people that 1 to 2 drinks per day is better for your health than 0 drinks per day.

      One lab from one country, heavily promoted by the California wine industry. In Europe, this is confused with the fact that historically people drank weak ales because it was safer than water due to cholera.

      Another scam with wellness influencers is resveratrol from wine -it does fuck all.

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      Ethically because of the known dangers of abuse, no medical professional or organization should recommend alcohol consumption. It is NOT a safe drug to use by anyone’s level of evaluation. It runs a similar levels of risk as driving a car, another activity that no health professional should recommend.

      That being said, for those that are genetically predisposed to heart disease and diabetes, the proper dosage and timing of alcohol consumption helps to regulate cholesterol and insulin. This is backed not by surveys which are prone to the errors you described, but blood draws etc. aka testable evidence.

      Genetically 3 out of 4 of my grandparents had diabetes and 4/4 had high blood pressure/heart disease. So when my blood tests started coming back with screwed up cholesterol ratios and my blood pressure started increasing in my 30’s I read a shit ton of the scientific papers.

      So I started having around 1.5 drinks per night. Within 1 year my cholesterol and blood pressure normalized. They have remained so for the past decade. My one glass of wine or whiskey after dinner is acting as a very enjoyable medication.

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        Anecdotal health stories are the dog shit of the Internet. You have no idea if alcohol affected those numbers.