Satellite internet functionality via Starshield — the military version of the SpaceX service — was being at least partially restored Thursday morning, according to a source in the Ukrainian Defense Ministry.
Ukraine has resumed strikes on Russian oil refineries after President Volodymyr Zelenskyy angrily accused the United States of betraying Kyiv with a “dangerous” withdrawal of support critical to its defense against Russia.
Ukraine held off on attacks for three days after Donald Trump’s unilateral “energy ceasefire” announcement, but accused Russia of repeatedly attacking its power grid. Zelenskyy voiced mounting frustration over the Kremlin’s failure to abide by the truce, and what he sees as U.S. attempts to pressure Kyiv after gaps in intelligence sharing on Russian attacks and restrictions on the Starlink internet service.
Satellite internet functionality via Starshield — the military version of the SpaceX service — was being at least partially restored Thursday, according to a source in the Ukrainian Defense Ministry, who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the topic.
In an interview with the Financial Times, published Thursday, Zelenskyy indicated his patience had already been exhausted.
Understand one very important thing that’s happening here: stopping Russia at this point in time benefits the entire planet.
They’ve been going around attacking countries, killing people, and slaughtering civilians for decades with absolutely no meaningful pushback from anyone.
Ukraine is simply able to push back.
Of course, the problem is that stopping Russia doesn’t benefit a very small group of people, and that’s evident by Trump’s behavior. This very small group of people is willing to do literally anything and everything to protect what they have, purely for their own selfish purposes and nothing more.
It’s obvious that Zelensky is no longer playing ball with this nonsense of the 1% doing whatever the hell they want. Good for him. It’s time to put these people in their place and take their money away from them.
Understand one very important thing that’s happening here: stopping the USA at this point in time benefits the entire planet.
They’ve been going around attacking countries, killing people, and slaughtering civilians for decades with absolutely no meaningful pushback from anyone.
Ukraine is simply able to push back.
Of course, the problem is that stopping the USA doesn’t benefit a very small group of people, and that’s evident by Trump’s behavior. This very small group of people is willing to do literally anything and everything to protect what they have, purely for their own selfish purposes and nothing more.
Sure, I’m not even going to disagree with you, except for the fact that we weren’t talking about the US in this post.
As a matter of fact, I was admonishing the US and its decision to betray the Ukrainians.
I will say this, however: regardless of how you feel about the US and your animosity toward it, Ukraine has been able to defend itself against Russia, in large part, because of the support it received from the United States.
Russia is a threat not just to the US, but to the rest of the world as well.
And as bad as the US really is, you’ll get no argument from me on that point, but we still have the capacity to do the right thing, at least to some degree. Keep in mind that this current administration is, in my opinion, the worst I’ve ever seen in my lifetime, and I’ve lived through quite a few presidents.
Adding to this. Step back a moment and notice that this is, in part, the same playbook being used everywhere else: California vs Florida, Red vs Blue; US vs Ukraine vs Russia.
These are distractions. We need to eat the rich. They are the problem and we outnumber them.
100%. Like I said a tiny group of people are benefiting from the immoral outcome.
Sometimes it’s helpful to hold up a mirror.
(Not to suggest Russia or China can’t also be baddies)
Throw in China, too. What’s one more in the fray?
One big difference is that China attacks (what they consider to be) their own people.
Trump can fuck off straight to hell along with all his fucking Nazi followers.
Carry on Ukraine. Fuck MAGA and their Russian masters. This proves, further, that the current US administration is completely unreliable and untrustworthy. I would not purchase US made weapon systems until the MAGA turds are gone.
Current administration? haha The entire reason the Ukraine is in this mess is because the US and NATO has been using them as sacraficial lambs since Clinton.
No, the entire reason Ukraine is in this mess, is because putler invaded them
Pretty sure it’s because they willingly handed over their nukes based on an empty promise.
That didnt help for sure but all russia had to do was not invade
Ukraine, not “the Ukraine”
The person you responded to is likely either (a) Russian or (b) old enough to remember what parts of the USSR were called … or © both.
Here’s some info in case anyone doesn’t know why we would make a distinction between Ukraine and “the Ukraine.”
Target more data centers please!
I like when oil infrastructure explodes.
I saw an army patch in Ukraine with a drone above a refinery with the slogan: Just stopped oil.
That’s awesome
Good. And this time, don’t fucking stop until Putin is a distant memory.
Good. Trump has been playing both sides and half assing this thing from the start. He clearly doesn’t have the balls to make Papa Putin do anything.
Employees usually don’t make demands of their employers. The instructions only flow from Russia to the GOPedos
He’s helping Putin quite a bit because they’re allies. Not playing both sides, just play pretend.
But also, why would Ukraine follow orders from America when Trump BLATANTLY BACK STABBED THEM. It would be unhinged for us to expect Ukraine to listen to us ever again
He’s not playing both sides, he has clear preference. He just doesn’t have the card’s.
He doesn’t have them because Putin has them on a shelf.
Remember when conservatives hated Russia until their programming was changed?
No values beyond bigotry. No consistency beyond stupidity.
Remember when a certain Fox News contributor who goes on TV saying we should be at war with Iran to prevent them from having missiles was charged with illegally selling missiles to Iran in trade for keeping Americans hostage until after the 1980 election?
And where did he get the money to procure those missiles since it was a black.op and could not be on government books?
Profiting from selling cocaine to US.citizens and starting the crack cocaine epidemic in LA.
Technically he did the treason first, and then got hired by Fox to justify his treason.
We should probably tell the whole story. Not to justify his actions, but he did the treason because the President told him to.
Read his first wife died two years ago and he married the woman he shredded documents with a year later. 🤦🏻♂️
Woahoooha damn…which of their clowns was this?? Sounds a touch before my time.
Just remember that all morality and decency is North of him.
Thanks for the sauce.
Jaw. Dropped. Wow. They can really just get away with anything, can’t they?
It was like a fucking light switch.
Because they’re immoral. They’re lesser men.
Because Russia is no longer a communist country despised by conservatives, but a country larping as conservative that pay lip service to American conservatives to destabilise the West.
Conservatism is and always has been an attempt to return to a form of feudalism, with the rich being the new nobility and everyone else being powerless to resist. In that regard, Russia with its oligarchs is about as conservative as it comes.
someone likened texas is closer to russia, since oligarchs/abbot, practically controls the whole state
Probably similar power grid reliability stats and winter casualties, too.
No. Conservatism can be that and can be skepticism to idealism in all forms.
The Russian example would be the popular belief of some people that presidential power should be made stronger in the 90s, and then of some other people that everything western is just better from the root and larping is enough, and then of another group of people that they can take modern (by year 2012) Russia’s common idea of “respectable” and “cool” and make it compatible with honesty and justice and their own survival.
The American example would be - well, I think Fox News is good enough, what they started with was (of what I’ve read) the typical American idea of “alternative” and “anti-establishment”, which is good in itself, just believing that there’s a side offering that or that there’s a way to move the world in that direction radically, - these are dangerous idiocies.
The “youthly liberal modern” idea of cool of 2010s in the social media, that I’ve recently remembered, is too a good example. When virtually all of the crowd was uncritically accepting that people at whom corporate policies point and say “they are homophobes, extremists and what’s the worst of all - uncool”, are really that.
One meaning of the word “conservatism” is being skeptical of such things. One can be conservative-left. It’s just that people don’t like nuance.
It doesn’t matter what you think conservatism is, it only matters what your masters think it is. And they follow the teachings of Edmund Burke, that money means control and that control is everything.
As long as you keep supporting monsters, they’ll keep selling you lies.
Because conservatism is the push for a new feudalism, and the serfs have no say in it beyond blindly supporting the rich.
Well, if we reach that, your support is also not very meaningful.
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There’s obviously nothing anti establishment and counter cultural about fox news. These are demagogues with budgets of millions of USD and with a large viewership.
How they stylize their reactionary bs is almost meaningless. It’s surface level.
The point remains: they have nothing beyond bigotry and stupidity and these are the only constants.
Yeah, “they” matters not about the source, but about what the audience thinks.
It doesn’t matter what lies they buy into. There’s no such thing as a “conservative lefty” or whatever you wrote earlier.
They bought into some culture war issue that’s in the end meaningless.
It’s not important to be able to discriminate against trans people but they want to do that and are willing to accept a whole bundle of reactionary policies along with it.
There’s no such thing as a “conservative lefty” or whatever you wrote earlier.
Communist Party of the Soviet Union would seem to be exactly that.
I’m pretty sure that just means “conservative” doesn’t mean anything.
Well, all words have different semantics depending on the context and would have none without context. Doesn’t say much.
Semantics can be playing with words, are sure you’re not doing that?
We’re not talking about words, we’re talking about political ideology. A communist is a communist, a liberal is a liberal, a fascist is a fascist, these ideologies aren’t context dependent. There are different kinds of communists and liberals and fascists etc etc but they’re all recognizably part of the same ideological family with a clear historical tradition, no matter the time period or country.
Conservatives can be so radically different in different contexts that it’s not really useful as a descriptor. It’s like saying someone is extreme or moderate or revolutionary or something, its so context dependent that it tells you practically nothing without the context.
Beware of the media you consume, it exists to shape you. Including this comment.
I don’t remember that, no.
Wtf is with this shit expecting Ukraine to treat Russia with kid gloves? They were invaded. As far as I’m concerned they could glass Moscow and I wouldn’t give a shit. If we want Russia to be able to deliver oil we should be pressuring them to GTFO of Ukraine so Ukraine has no reason to defend themselves.
Why even entertain any other resolution?
Because Trump expects some kind of deal out of Ukraine and Russia, that will lead to a new age of prosperity, and in turn, his immortality as a president forever remembered for making America great again. Or Putin has the pee tapes, featuring underage girls, as recorded by Jeffrey Epstein, on Saint Little James.
I know why Trump’s doing it. Why everyone else though? This conflict is talked about as of it were a two way street when it was an aggressive act on the part of Russia.
maga is literally grifters of americans united inc. they’re all grifting as much as they can and trump is their literal face on the camera.
Many people were full into the idea of the USSR, and still are angry that it dissolved. They see Russia as a legitimate successor and lick up their narrative.
And then there are people who don’t like Russia or war, but who are also skeptical about their own leadership in the US and NATO states. Both siders.
The Russian narrative has a good chance with these as well.
And then there’s young people who have not experienced much history themselves and are in need of orientation.
nobody tell .ml
moscow and st petersburg shouldve been hit from the start to be honest, its where putin base of power is.
Because Trump has unresolved daddy issues, and for whatever reason he wants Putin to acknowledge him.
Strategically, glassing a city wouldn’t solve anything. That just makes the people who are left want to fight harder.
Infrastructure and decapitation strikes are more effective at getting populations to stop fighting, especially when that infrastructure includes the propaganda machine.
I wasn’t speaking in terms of strategy. My point was outside observers expecting a nation that’s defending themselves to hold back in any way is absurd.
I agree. It’s very pipedream, I know, but I want innocent Russians to be safe. I want their people to stop being thrown away by a vile madman, and their brains to stop being scrambled by bullshit State news.
I want Russians and Ukranians both to stop dying.
If pooty would direct himself to the nearest open highrise window, I’m sure he would inadvertently save countless lives, since simply stopping doesn’t seem to be on the table.
Isn’t there quite a lot of infrastructure and leadership in Moscow?
Yes, but surgical strikes that leave the population alive are more effective.
Bomb the people into submission was a plan cooked up after the first world war, and was pretty stupid then as well.
The firebombing of Germany, Japan, the UK, etc. didn’t make the population less willing to fight, quite the opposite, but the defeat of a countries military, did in fact make the populations surrender.
Populations will put up with a lot when under constant attack, when their loved ones are dying in the street, but when they’re merely inconvenienced, and then their team loses, well, that breaks moral.
Also, decapitation works wonders, take out the leaders who are pushing for more war, and suddenly there’s no push for more war.
Yes… But there was a notable exception with Japan. And I’m not saying obliteration is strategically better than targeted strikes achieving the same in terms of military targets.
Both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were important strategic targets. Hiroshima was a heavily industrialized factory city as well as a major logistics and supply hub. Nagasaki was…an industrialized city producing war materials with a major port and was a major shipping hub.
Both bombs served specific strategic purposes in destroying the Japanese war effort. It wasn’t just “let go blow up some japs lol”.
True, but it was something of a balancing act between multiple motivations. The USA talked up the strategic importance of the targets, but they also wanted to create a psychological impact.
IIRC Japan had already internally agreed to surrender, the nuclear strikes were as much for USSR’s benefit (ie to scare them) as they were for finalising the war.
I’ll have to go back and check but my recollection is the Japanese positions shifted from
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(position for months when the tide turned and the allies approached) “defend the home islands to the last child you can strap a bomb to” (literally, the plan included unwilling suicide bombers not just kamikaze) - kill as many million Allied troops as can be done by any means possible (including civilians attacking).
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(A couple of days before the nukes) “Oh hell the USSR is going to get here first and that is worse than the western allies quick overturn the govt and supply surrender terms that aren’t terrible to the americans” (I’m fuzzy on exactly who possibly the rest of cabinet)
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Americans ignore surrender offer in order to cowe USSR as well as Japan, forcing an unconditional surrender rather than the managed surrender that Japan offered, and prove the nukes really worked. (The first bomb is somewhat ethically defensible, the second quite honestly isnt from my perspective)
If anyone is a historical guru feel free to correct, it’s been years since I read it.
Key differences to the “general” story in the west is that Japan offered surrender before the nukes were dropped, and the allied command who ordered the bombing DID know. Attempts have been made to justify it as “they didn’t know that japan was willing to surrender - it was a comms gap”. The desire to intimidate the USSR was also not released until decades later
Edit to add “western” in front of allies in point 2 - USSR were indeed our allies at that point, although there was a plan, and serious consideration to do so, to keep rolling East from Berlin after Germany surrendered
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st petersberg to.
accused Russia of repeatedly attacking its power grid
I hate how journalists use “accused” for both factual statements and lies.
This one can easily be defended by looking back 5days abcnews link
No, you use its accused because maybe its a false flag Ukraine attack, or maybe they used North Koreans to press the buttons.
I imagine the downvotes are because people couldn’t figure out the /s
How would anyone figure that out? That can’t just say wrong/stupid things and say you were being sarcastic after the fact
Because it was so absurdly stupid that people can often pick it up
You can’t underestimate stupid
Thats why Trump keeps a token Canadian at his side so if he launches nukes he can order them to press the button and Blame Canada, right?
Do i need it here too?
You must be new to humans if you think if there’s a limit to stupidity
Well we got Trump not once, but twice, so at the very least that bar is incredibly low.
Lemmy called it the moment Trump falsely claimed there was an energy infrastructure cease fire.
(If other communities foresaw it I may just not be aware - I don’t mean to say others didn’t see the obvious, too)
Thank you President Zelenskyy! I wish you the best of luck, skill and determination to shove that Russian fucker to a cell in Siberia.
Thanks for the data center too. Know where any more are?
Wish we had a Zelenskyy in the white House and not the festering pile of orange shit we currently have.
Y’know if we had to keep the orange part I’d be thrilled to have a literal orangutan in the seat. I’m sure they’d be smarter, more compassionate, and certainly less ghastly painful to behold with the eyes.
resumes strikes
Did they actually stop? Trump made some noise about a pause, but I haven’t seen any evidence of a break in the fighting.
Zelenskyy voiced mounting frustration over the Kremlin’s failure to abide by the truce
What truce? Nobody in Ukraine or Russia negotiated a truce. Russian diplomats simply told Trump that they couldn’t ship gas until Ukraine backed down. And then Trump threw a hissy fit at his Ukrainian counterparts, because that’s how Trump engages with an “ally” diplomatically.
Satellite internet functionality via Starshield — the military version of the SpaceX service — was being at least partially restored Thursday, according to a source in the Ukrainian Defense Ministry, who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the topic.
It still boggles my mind that anyone in Ukraine can consider StarLink a reliable partner in this conflict. I have to wonder how many dead Ukrainians are attributable to sudden and unannounced suspensions of service by Elon Musk’s premier global telecom.
Sadly the Ukrainians have no choice. They don’t have any other similar service they can rely on, unless they or the EU build something similar.
Which…you know…more trash in low orbit when evvverybody’s gotta have their own proprietary hardware up ther…yaaaay ._.
Yeah. But unless the US nationalizes SpaceX, what else can you do?
Yeah…I miss when NASA was cooler and not sold off to private interests. :(
Would it be “unfair” to SpaceX to just take over their uh, “space property”? Maybe. But it’d benefit humanity greatly if humanity owned the stuff that was in space, instead of just one rich idiot madman. :(
Starlink is super cheap compared to other means of communication, plus high bandwidth. Its not like there are no other options, but they have higher price tag and might be less reliable due to untested tech.
Starlink is an advantage on the battlefield, would be stupid not to use it.
What truce? Nobody in Ukraine or Russia negotiated a truce.
Zelinsky has to walk a delicate line. He knows that Trump is a lying blowhard who can’t be trusted, but he also has to make sure he maintains international support.
It’s not Zelensky who is the problem. National news is taking this at face value, when it very clearly is not
It’s not Zelensky who is the problem.
I wasn’t suggesting that he is.
I am also surprised by that wording. I assume Zelenskyy sinply employs the same “technique” as Trump: just matter-of-factly state something to fit the narrative for your goals and blame everyone else for being incompetent dumbfucks or liars.
In the end it’s all a bit “he said she said” anyway.
Edit: hey hey, why the downvotes? Please elaborate. Last headline I read was that Zelenskyy didn’t know about any “deal”. Trump talked to Putin and then announced a ceasefire between Ukraine and Russia.
Now Zelenskyy says Russia broke the cease fire. That sounds to me more like just spinning Trumps onesided narrative further to have a public reason for continuing hurting Russia (which is fine by me).
I was just trying to point out that the narrative is surprising/weird.
Lemmy has spoken!
I get what your saying, though, that hes just playing into the same contrived narrative. My reasoning would be that the world only reads headlines and nothing else, so he has no other option than to use the same headlines to defend himself. Of course this is just a gut feeling, I also have only read the headlines.
Musk should be tried for the deaths he causes by playing those games.
Slava Ukraini
