I thought killing Nazis was one of the great American pastimes though? I feel that this was a concrete step towards Making America Great Again.
Wells that’s because he didn’t do it, I saw him at the arcade all day that day. He won a giant teddy bear.
Should be destruction of property instead. Murder implies the killing of a human.
Generally once you remove trash from your property it becomes fair game.
I will always upvote this.
Kirk died of a fetanyl overdose, Erika gave it to him.
How can there be a murder charge when there was no murder?
Putting down a feral pig is a civic duty.
Charlie’s neck just did that. His blood pressure was too high from all the hatred and also his tiny face contributed.
Also the dude who didn’t kill him is a fucking weirdo too.
His face was normal and he had a tiny head that was swollen to be bigger than normal from the pressure. His neck was a weak point that finally succumbed to the pressure. That’s why his neck just did that.
Charlie’s neck exploding was the funniest shit. Douchebag deserved it
is pro life
dies
Says a few deaths are the price to be paid for having firearms
Backs it up
Now that’s what I call Ethos!
Removed by mod
Lol.
No rule against gore on this sub. And it was pretty tame gore and a historical photo. But whatevs. You do you, boo.
Lol. You have jeffw on your mod team. Now it makes more sense.
I have it saved on my phone and watch when I need to cheer up
Did they ever check for fentanyl in his system? How can we be sure the bullet had any effect?
Did he die from the bullet, or simply with the bullet?
Kirk, who had no active warrants…
I had a conservative friend tell me there’s an entire conspiracy around this. And this guy was basically mentally unstable and convinced to bring the gun to this location.
In reality, Israel installed those pager explosives in his microphone that sent something into his neck. The main argument is that the gun used would have done significantly more damage.
I don’t consider most conservative hunters and shooters to actually be very skilled or knowledgeable. This is based very heavily on a lot of experience and interactions. A human neck bone will definitely stop a 30-06. It might be a flesh sack of spine gravel, but having no explosion of gore is not a surprise.
It was the most effective way to get him to shut up though. Really cute that it happened after he got dog walked so publicly by the Cambridge student.
It’s the most effective way to get all MAGA trash to shut up. Take notes. Only one thing ever stopped Nazis.
Imagine getting shot with that caliber and not having your neck turn to jello while literal steel can’t fucking take the hit. Also imagine assembling the gun only with a screwdriver, only to have to have it disassembled again before going on a run (all while leaving the screwdriver behind) in the span of like what? 10 seconds? And then for some reason in a forest, before tossing out the evidence, he assembles it back again (with no screwdriver this time). And what a coincidence it is that he left it in a forest on Black Rocks land parcel.
Everyone knows it’s faster to draw your backup screwdriver than to reload the primary screwdriver.
Everyone knows it’s faster to draw your backup screwdriver than to reload the primary screwdriver.
I certainly am curious how this trial is going to go. My gut tells me that, just like Mangione, the prosecutors have much more data than they’re giving us. Of course, Mangione pled guilty, this guy is going to have a trial.
Sometimes bullets do really weird things, so I’m not saying it isn’t what happened, but it was a 30-06 rifle round which really should have done signficantly more damage from that range, so it is strange at the least.
Yea, no. 7.62×63mm will take out a moose and not one hunter will tell you that “yea, sometimes they do weird things, man”. It will take you out easily. They even said that “he had strong bones”, nah… nah he didn’t.
We also don’t have any pictures of the exit wound. There couldve be a huge chunk missing from the back of his neck that the camera couldn’t capture at that angle
If the bullet didn’t hit any bone that will greatly limit the visible damage
I know nothing about guns or bullets, but is it possible the type of gun, or the specific bullet mattered?
No, not really. The type of gun doesn’t make a difference aside from the length of the barrel, but that’s pretty negligible for anything remotely normal (i.e. not a ~4-10inch barrel in this case).
Same thing with the cartridge/bullet, total energy varies bullet to bullet, but again, in a negligible way.
The real explanation is that the damage people expect from this cartridge is caused by hydrostatic shock: the shockwave caused by the bullet entering and slowing down significantly (transferring energy). Hitting somewhere soft and without much muscle mass, the side of the neck, let the bullet pass through without transferring a ton of energy.
Didn’t they rush to change the concrete pathing like the day after?
Fun fact, the company that paved is also israeli and quickly dissolved after doing that job. Company closed soon after the job was done. It’s literally nothing suspicious, Charlies neck can just do that, companies also do that sometimes too… it’s just average actions. Nothing to see here.
The type of gun can matter, for example an autoloading rifle is not quite as powerful as a bolt action rifle because it uses some of the energy to cycle the bolt and load the next bullet. The shooter allegedly used a bolt action rifle, though, which should basically be “the most powerful” type of rifle.
OMG, listening to some of y’all talk about this shit that have no experience or business trying to explain about ballistics and rifles and ammunition etc. is just hilarious.
Gun nuts.
The type of bullet definitely, 100% matters. Some bullets have more mass than other bullets, and the material of the bullet can be harder or softer. All of that will affect the type of damage. The amount of powder used to fire the bullet also affects its kinetic energy when hitting the target.
Do we have loads of data on bullets being shot at this exact location at this exact range against a real human? Nobody can predict this, no matter how much they love their guns.
Yes.
The 30.06 rifle has literally killed tens of thousands of people at every range imaginable. It is easily among the most well studied weapons on earth. This is easily among the most common weapons in the United States and this cartridge was the standard issue rifle cartridge for both world wars.
Who’s the guy with experience/expertise on this subject saying it should have done more damage?
Bring an expert that says the contrary instead of throwing vague shade. It’s the consensus in most fire arm circles from what I understand.
Lots of other things don’t add up as well (like paving over the crime scene a week later).
I neck shot my deer last year with a 30.06. No huge exit wound. Obliterated the spine. We usually hang them from the head but had to hang this one by the hind legs.
If everyone is saying it you should have a source to backup the theory. It’s not everyone elses’ responsibility to disprove it.
I don’t believe that conspiracy, but I do believe this kid was set up. This is what gangstalking is for. Manipulating loners or people that don’t meet social standards.
it’s funny that you don’t believe that (ridiculous) conspiracy theory but believe in a legitimately schizophrenic conspiracy theory (gangstalking)
Gangstalking is documented as a psychological torture technique by the UN Office of the Commissioner on Human Rights.
They’re what medical experts refer to as an ‘Idiot’
People upvoting you need to know that this is not a thing.
It is not a ‘real phenomenon’ compared with genuine stalking
What is gangstalking and what genuine stalking? Basic trolling and harassing people is real thing. Unless you’re saying trolling doesn’t exist.
I know nothing about this “gangstalking” stuff, but it sounds like it’s about people who have a particular delusion, perhaps based on grander conspiracies, that isn’t grounded in reality. But that doesn’t mean that stalking doesn’t exist. Don’t tell me you guys are arguing that.
The far right propaganda system is making violent extremists. That is also a real thing. Whether or not it happened to this guy is not out of the question just because paranoid schizophrenia is a thing. Far right spaces are violent almost by default on account of being hate networks.
You’re trusting a source published by the US government in 2025?
It absolutely is a thing.
Pay especial attention to point 14.
For more information, see here here and here:
https://purdueglobal.dspacedirect.org/items/07d416e0-5a77-46c6-818b-d33392493f4b
Can’t wait for some doc to get declassified and we learn the CIA has been doing it for decades.
“It’s not paranoia if they really are out to get you”, I suppose. lol
Yeah, I’m no ballistics expert myself, but if you look up videos of a ballistic Test dummy getting shot in the neck at that range with that caliber bullet, it appears that (if the details of the official story were true) his head would have likely entirely detached from his body.
Nonsense. It depends on how.much it slowed (from that distance, quite a lot), whether it tumbled (from that distance, likely), and where it actually struck.
A sword can take someone’s head off. It can also pass through soft tissue and simply nick a major artery. It depends on where it hits and how hard.
To be clear, they did the Test at the same distance.
They didn’t mention the tumbling thing, but I assume that’s just because it’s a higher level concept than the demographic the video was designed for would be familiar with. (I don’t really have any knowledge on that aspect myself, not trying to say I do).
As far as where the bullet hit, I’m going just off of the video and official narrative. In the video it looks like he’s having a fencing response, which would indicate that he was hit with force and not just glanced/grazed.
In the official narrative they claim that the bullet got lodged in one of his vertebrae and stopped because his neck was “abnormally resilient”, or because “that’s what god wanted” depending on who you ask.
Of course he didn’t do it, we were doing shots down at o’paddies at the time, no way he did it, you all saw us there, didn’t you?
I’m of the view that we should rally to get Robinson acquitted purely on the basis of who he shot. (Also maybe to inspire copy-cats.) We can’t acquit Luigi, but we can acquit the alleged killer of Kirk.
The dude is a groyper, it’s best to just sit back and watch the show on this one
The “Groyper” shit was a myth spread to counter the growing narrative that the shooter was transgender.
No he was a former groyper who converted into a liberal after crushing on a trans person in real life and realizing he was lied to. You can literally read his text messages, he talks about what a hateful evil POS Chahley was.
He is? Well god damnit
Merks Kirk > Posts edgy memes
He would’ve more than balanced the scales, if he was guilty…which he’s not, as it was obviously an Israeli op.
If you don’t believe me, just listen the Gospel of Klandace.
i’m gonna need a source on that, this is something i haven’t heard yet and it sounds too wild to be true
That’s no meaningful proof that he’s a groyper, even the article admits it:
In isolation, the references are vague enough to be interpreted every which way.
Charlie Kirk died?
No, but his body double did. Charlie Kirk himself fled to South America as is appropriate for people of his political conviction.
Just once, unfortunately.
That’s what big media wants you to think, anyway
turns himself in
pleads not guilty
???
don’t have lawyer
turn self in
aquire lawyer
lawyer explains why that was a bad idea
start following lawyer’s advice
Question, do you retain the lawyer in your inventory while you are busted, or do you lose it like all your weapons?
…asking for a friend
The game scripting requires you to have a layer during the arrest sequence so if you have not finished the questline where you get the lawyer one is automatically added to your inventory.
That’s exactly what you’re supposed to do when you’re under arrest and being charged with a crime that you didn’t do. You turn yourself in so it looks better to the judge, then you plead not guilty.
Even if you did do it, it’s a lot better for you to plead not guilty at first. You might be angling for a plea deal, or waiting to see if they actually have any concrete evidence, but pleading guilty and throwing yourself on the mercy of the court almost never works out in your favor.
This is standard. By pleading not guilty, there can be a trial. If he pleads guilty, there is no trial.
I thought his dad pressured him to turn himself in?
There’s plenty of time to rethink the strategy, especially when lawyers get involved.
Also IIRC his dad and/or his SO more or less ratted on him and forced his hand. Being a most wanted fugitive isn’t a choice many would make.
Taking out the trash is illegal, apparently.
FUCK YES
