A robot was on fire. Again. It was the summer of 2024, and the cutting-edge robots inside General Dynamics’ sweltering artillery factory near Dallas were catching fire with startling regularity, according to four former workers there. This wasn’t ideal, as the plant was supposed to be churning out urgently needed artillery shells for Ukraine. The robots, giant metal arms with clamps for hands…

… The fiasco has cost American taxpayers $533 million, according to the Army. But the Army has not held General Dynamics or a key Turkish subcontractor — which provided the factory’s much-hyped but little-proven equipment — publicly accountable for the failures. Nor has it made General Dynamics pay a penny back.

Just the opposite: General Dynamics, one of the world’s largest defense companies, has been showered with new contracts, continuing its track record as one of the greatest beneficiaries of Pentagon spending. The company is still in charge of the factory. It recently announced that it will fix things there by bringing in another much-hyped but little-proven technology.

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  • Soggy@lemmy.world
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    I mean, I guess I’d rather light my money on fire than have it blow up some innocent brown person. Sucks that these specific munitions are allegedly for the defense of Ukraine but that’s definitely an outlier for the US government.

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    A beautiful microcosm of American manufacturing. We get to read all about the slick ambitious businessman running after contracts like a dog after a car tire. Just to the periphery of this story are:

    the nepo babiy execs who used a good chunk of the no bid contract to do stock buybacks [after typing this I checked, and 2022 was the highest stock buyback year for General Dynamics this decade - https://www.financecharts.com/stocks/GD/cash-flow/repurchase-of-capital-stock-annual]

    overconfident cookbook engineers who are all blaming the failures on someone else

    that one guy whose dwindling team has been making everything work for the past few decades, the one who was hired as a line worker back in '79 and worked his way up the company back when that was something a person could do, who handed in his retirement notice the day this factory plan hit his desk - who was too old for this shit

    Make America Great Depression Again

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      How long before a more serious power decides to call America’s bluff?

      It’s not a game of cards. This shit gets people killed, even when Americans (or our proxies) are going to war half-cocked.

      Iraq is an absolute wasteland, over a decade after the US officially ended military operations. Iran has suffered something on the order of a trillion USD in domestic infrastructure losses. Nevermind the casualties, the ecological damage (Valdez-tier Oil spill in Oman just for starters), or the excess deaths downstream of a massive economic contraction. Afghanistan tossed off the US yoke only to enter a multi-year famine, as they scramble to restructure their economy absent international trade. These are Pyrrhic victories by any measure.

      Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia and the rest of the OPEC Mid-East gang are absolutely eating shit as they squat on top of trillions of dollars of petroleum products they can no longer successfully export.

      Russia is going down the same road in its proxy war with NATO in Ukraine. They can stubbornly say they haven’t been beaten, as an entire generation of young men is obliterated and the country’s biggest export industry gets blown up piece by piece. Even the USSR’s outright collapse pales in comparison to their modern day self-immolation.

      Israelis are celebrating a genocide while their own country becomes a nightmare hellhole, through economic contractions and increased conscription and a steadily more paranoid and reactionary government turning on what’s left of a domestic opposition.

      India and Pakistan keep butting heads, to the benefit of absolutely nobody. Kashmir is a wasteland almost as badly fucked up as Afghanistan, with one pogrom after another rendering some of the most fertile territory in Asia into a depopulated wasteland.

      What sane person wants to live in a country at war? It’s horrible. We’re way beyond the point at which anyone “wins”. The only winning move is NOT TO PLAY. A lesson that only seems to sink into the human brain if you say it in Chinese.

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      Sort of. A competent leader would have been able to put Iran over a barrel through avenues other than wasting missiles on hard targets. But it’s certainly shown the weakness of the US when there are useful idiots in power. The US is supposed to be able to project power anywhere in the world, and we’re clearly unable to do that right now.

      But even so, there’s no risk of actual boots on the ground invasion in the US. Even with an absolute moron in charge, the mere fact that we control the land coast to coast severely restricts any potential invader. They’d have to do a Normandy up and down both coasts, or convince Canada or Mexico to help them do a Belarus.

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        I dare to armchair general that it might be more than just incompetence.

        Ukraine’s military has been saying for a few years that while NATO plans, strategies and tactics were useful at the start of the war, they have been irrelevant and even detrimental for a few years now, small drones have completely changed warfare.

        In addition to a country that has been arguably preparing for an assymetrical war for maybe 40-60 years, Iran is one of four countries with the most knowledge of current drone tactics now; the other three being Ukraine, Russia and China.

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          Don’t forget Taiwan. They are in a similar position to Ukraine with China wanting to just take over. And China 100% would need a D-day style ambiguous assault. Except Taiwan obviously expects that, and can easily see the build up and launch. And weather in the region severely limits options for a successful assault for a lot of the year.

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            The terrain makes it hard for China to try an invasion as well and if they do try, Taiwan is going to disable their crown jewels instead of letting China have them.

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              Oh gods, where is this attack coming from? What are they hoping to achieve? Who even are they?

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              Taiwan won’t be able to send a drone flying 300 km over China, they aren’t gonna screw up air defense line Russia. Striking deep will require either smuggling things in or building weapons from inside their borders. If China expected a hot war to start I’d expect them to lead with heavy amplification of internal surveillance and hunting possible threats to remove as many internal threats as possible.

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        or convince Canada or Mexico to help them do a Belarus.

        Honestly, that’s probably not completely off the table at this point.

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        I don’t think anyone’s invading the US. I think hundreds of years of pax Americana (wrt ocean trade) are ending though and it may mean a return to mercantilism and the mass poverty it creates.

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      Yeah I feel like it’s happening now with Iran, but I guess it is too soon to really assess

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      Who would be a “more serious power”? China just executed 3 of their “rocket generals” in the last year because they figured out more than half of the ICBMs were either filled with water with the fuel sold on the black market, or were cemented shut but made to look like they opened. Their new ships they’re building are catching fire at an insane rate. Their new generation whatever the fuck number they made up fighter is confirmed to be a flying tank.

      Russia has military from when my grandpa was born with a handful of non ancient things to show off to the world. Plus Russian production is known for its quality /s.

      Who’s left to be a “serious power”?

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        Israel just sicced the US on a mildly scrappy regional power and all they were able to do is make Iran less reasonable and now they’re looking like they’re running out of ammo.

        So, literally whomever shows up to fight next I’ll withhold judgment until after… Let’s say the third time Trump declares victory.

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        the US military could be building nuclear warheads in your back yard with your name painted on the side, and if someone claimed they were anti-russian nukes you’d make the generals a cup of tea

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    This is a tried new technology that failed story.

    News | War & Peace Weapons Maker Was Paid $533M in Taxpayer Funds to Produce Shells. It Made None.

    General Dynamics has neither been held publicly accountable nor had to repay any of the money.

    By Jesse Coburn , ProPublica

    Published August 12, 2026

    A stack of unfinished mortars seen at a General Dynamics facility in Scranton, Pennsylvania, on August 20, 2025. General Dynamics has plants across the country, including the Texas plant that is the subject of this story. A stack of unfinished mortars seen at a General Dynamics facility in Scranton, Pennsylvania, on August 20, 2025. General Dynamics has plants across the country, including the Texas plant that is the subject of this story. Aimee Dilger / SOPA Images / LightRocket via Getty Images

    Truthout is a vital news source and a living history of political struggle. If you think our work is valuable, support us with a donation of any size.

    This story was originally published by ProPublica.

    A robot was on fire. Again.

    It was the summer of 2024, and the cutting-edge robots inside General Dynamics’ sweltering artillery factory near Dallas were catching fire with startling regularity, according to four former workers there. This wasn’t ideal, as the plant was supposed to be churning out urgently needed artillery shells for Ukraine. The robots, giant metal arms with clamps for hands, would end up drenched in oil, which would then — no surprise — combust as they moved steel blocks heated to 1,800 degrees into and out of a machine that periodically erupted columns of fire. One blaze that summer melted a robot’s cables, putting it out of commission for a week.

    Only weeks earlier, defense officials and executives had touted the factory’s innovative new machinery, imported from Turkey, at a gala opening ceremony. But employees were already used to spectacular mishaps, fiery and otherwise. “After the second, third, fourth time, it just became almost normal,” one former worker said. “It got to the point where I was not surprised by anything that happened there.”

    Instead of producing shells in an efficient and streamlined fashion, the pricey machines kept failing in bizarre ways. The robot arms would swing out of control, smashing into carefully calibrated equipment, and sometimes they would unexpectedly drop hunks of steel 5 feet down to the floor. The factory’s signature device, meant to precisely stretch the steel for the artillery shells, instead often cracked it beyond repair. Then there were the giant press machines, which required regular pounding with a sledgehammer to function properly but still botched the shaping of nearly every shell. “We really didn’t have any standardized practice,” said Quantel White, a former employee. “It was just a bunch of guys taking turns going at the machine with a sledgehammer every night.” To workers, even the factory buildings themselves came to feel doomed, with acrid smoke hanging in 100-degree heat over foundations seemingly sinking into the earth.A press machine at the General Dynamics artillery factory near Dallas Obtained by ProPublica

    The situation never improved. The U.S. Army, which funded the factory, ordered work halted on two of its three production lines in August 2025. By then, General Dynamics had blown eight deadlines. Work on the third production line continued, but the facility never produced a single usable shell, according to a report from the Department of Defense’s inspector general in July. Related Story Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth testifies during a Senate Appropriations Committee hearing in the Dirksen Senate Office Building on Capitol Hill on July 21, 2026 in Washington, D,C. Hegseth: “Greatest Threat” to US Would Be Failing to Give Pentagon $1.5T Budget

    The fiasco has cost American taxpayers $533 million, according to the Army. But the Army has not held General Dynamics or a key Turkish subcontractor — which provided the factory’s much-hyped but little-proven equipment — publicly accountable for the failures. Nor has it made General Dynamics pay a penny back.

    Just the opposite: General Dynamics, one of the world’s largest defense companies, has been showered with new contracts, continuing its track record as one of the greatest beneficiaries of Pentagon spending. The company is still in charge of the factory. It recently announced that it will fix things there by bringing in another much-hyped but little-proven technology.

    “It’s an absolute disaster,” said one former official in an Army office supervising the project. “The Army should’ve gone after recovering money from General Dynamics,” added the official, who, like others interviewed for this story, spoke on the condition of anonymity.

    Publicly, the Army has been tight-lipped about what, exactly, went wrong at the factory, located in a sprawling suburb called Mesquite. The inspector general report described the failure but offered few specifics. It didn’t name the companies involved, much less any of the individuals responsible. The report’s recommendations were tepid: The Army should determine whether the contract was “appropriately issued,” how “the money was spent” and whether it can recoup any of it. It should also “identify and implement a solution” for producing more artillery. Army officials deflected blame, telling the inspector general that they didn’t do anything wrong.

    In a detailed statement to ProPublica, the Army said it will recover funding for the project by getting unspecified discounts from General Dynamics on production orders. “The Army is exercising rigorous oversight to ensure every dollar invested delivers capability to the warfighter,” the statement read. “Where vendors fail to meet contract specifications, as seen at the Mesquite facility, we are evaluating contract performance, seeking recoupment of funds, and pivoting resources.”

    As for General Dynamics, it has given no public explanation whatsoever. The company has said that it “met or exceeded requirements,” according to the inspector general report. General Dynamics declined an interview request from ProPublica. Company spokesperson Jeff Davis said ProPublica’s reporting “fundamentally mischaracterizes the circumstances and falsely impugns our record of employee safety and truthfulness with our customer.” He continued: “An article based on this foundation would be a materially false and misleading hit piece.” Davis did not respond to ProPublica’s request that he specify the alleged errors.

    ProPublica reconstructed how the project went awry through interviews with 36 current and former employees of General Dynamics, the Army, the Pentagon and the White House. ProPublica also reviewed internal company documents as well as photographs and videos taken inside the factory.

    Those involved described a project that was rushed and ill considered from the start. Congress paved the way, removing government contracting guardrails — meant to ensure taxpayer money isn’t wasted — so that Ukraine-related defense projects could be funded quickly. The Army took advantage, handing General Dynamics lucrative no-bid awards without knowing whether the machines it planned to use could perform the desired work. The Army’s due diligence was inadequate, four former Army and General Dynamics officials told ProPublica.

    Compared to the multibillion-dollar budgets of other DOD projects, the financial cost of the Texas debacle is small. But the lack of consequences for the companies involved, in the view of defense-spending critics, is symptomatic of a larger problem: a deep-rooted culture at the Pentagon and in Congress in which expensive failures lead only to more spending. Such critics fear that extreme cases like this one could become more common if the Trump administration succeeds in boosting the defense budget from $1 trillion to $1.5 trillion. The administration is also seeking tens of billions of dollars for its war against Iran and pressuring defense companies to quickly ramp up weapons production.

    “Too often the contractors have no accountability for their mistakes,” defense budget researcher William Hartung said. The Texas failure, he said, “is a foreshadow of what’s to come if the Trump administration gets the budget it asked for.” The Pitch

    Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 felt like an emergency to the Biden administration. For General Dynamics, it was an opportunity. And Firat Gezen was ready with a pitch.

    In six years running General Dynamics’ Ordnance and Tactical Systems business, Gezen had earned a reputation as a deft strategist and salesman. At 50, he wasn’t an engineer, and he had no experience running factories. He had spent decades working on the financial side of the weapons business. With a ready smile and a delivery as smooth as his perfectly bald head, he knew how to woo corporate leaders and Pentagon arms buyers alike.

    Gezen was also shrewd. In 2020, after the Army sought to diversify its artillery supplier base by contracting with a small Pennsylvania company, Gezen swooped in and bought that company. That allowed General Dynamics to maintain its stranglehold over the production of metal bodies for the standard American artillery shell, referred to by its caliber: 155 mm. “Firat throws his arm around you and talks to you nicely,” one former Army official said. “But he’s got, like, five things that he’s the sole provider of, and it’s exclusive. He’s got you locked up forever.”

    That put General Dynamics in an ideal position. Russia and Ukraine were firing thousands of shells back and forth each day. The United States was a key supplier to Ukraine, but decades of disinvestment had left the U.S. artillery industry emaciated. In March 2022, Congress passed the first in a series of bills allocating billions of dollars for Ukraine-related causes, including boosting artillery production. The

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    That’s so cool! I love how expensive everything is and how much gas costs and how I just had to pay $1800 for medicine for my leg so weapon companies can live like this.

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      You personally paid, and I’m not joking, about three fiddy towards this debacle.

      Edit: the maths I used is the cost divided by approximately 154 million tax paying Americans. So about three fiddy.