YouTube says the changes are being introduced to “keep pace with the growth of YouTube, which now sees over 200 billion daily Shorts views and over a billion hours of watch time on TV” every day.
This reminds me of some past employment positions I had with extremely lucrative companies that, upon several employees having pushed and developed their skills to be able to reach production quotas (despite increasing safety hazards), simply raised production standards to avoid paying what was promised (certainly not meeting the threshold of what workers are worth).
In short, if you are a content creator on YouTube, do it for the love of your hobby and make money with your day job.
YouTube became evil the moment we all dislike-bombed their year in review video and they never made another one.
YouTube became evil when google ditched their slogan “don’t be evil!”.
So, it was evil from the start. It just needed to lure enough uncritical consumers in before enshittification started. Piece by piece.
YouTube became evil the moment Google got involved.
I subscribed to YouTube Red back in the day, when that’s what it was called.
Then circa early 2018 they changed the rules for monetisation from the previous 10k lifetime views to 1k subs & 4k watch hours over 12 months. That was when I unsubscribed from Red and installed an ad blocker. I had always been anti ad-blocker because my view was that people creating content deserve to get paid for it. That’s still my view in principle, but the increasing enshittification of the web thanks in no small part to shit like this from Google has meant I weigh the pros & cons differently. YouTube showed me very directly that they don’t care about supporting their creators. So I decided I didn’t want to support them anymore. It’s not like this was the first problem…the whole “where’s the fair use” thing came before that, and many other events besides. But cutting off small creators like that, without even grandfathering in existing creators who had been monetised with that threshold, was the last straw for me.
It was also Google’s fault that I moved from Ad Block Plus, which I chose specifically because of its “acceptable ads” policy (basically: let through ads that aren’t obnoxious), to uBlock Origin, which lacked such a policy, after YouTube tried blocking ad blockers from YouTube, and UBO was quicker to adapt.
That’s twice now that Google’s own actions have directly led to me supporting them less than I used to. This won’t be the third time, but only because I have no more cuts to give.
I like the animated stuff like monkey wrench and lackadaisy and and my stories and the science and engineering videos and the sovcit public meltdown vids. I’m not sure where else to go for those. I don’t think I find as much on nebula and I’ve heard peer tube kinda has a never-grew-up vibe to it.
Meanwhile, you set yourself up on PeerTube and add a Monero address to your tipping thing and people can tip you as soon as they want to, whether you have one view and less than a watch hour or billions of views and tons of watch hours.
And they will never stop extracting more value. I just want to prop nebula here, it’s great for creators and there’s a lot of them already on there.
The only thing ‘missing’ is the commenting system, but to me that’s an upgrade.
Nebula is awesome. I took a gamble with them and bought lifetime during their second round two years ago and never regretted it. It has only been getting better, here’s to hope that they keep direction.
Comm Systems is essential for the community pointing out mistakes or wrong doings
At this point I’m convinced that yt just hates smaller creators.
Nah, they hate signing checks. Not that long ago, they had a push to bring views to smaller creators, and my algorithm definitely shifted to people with hundreds to thousands of subs, instead of the hundreds of thousands to millions folks.
Now they raise the payment threshold.
Result: big creators get less traffic (money) to “boost small creators”, small creators get less money because they’re too small. YouTube gets to keep more cash.
No. This is just how capitalism works; you steal from the smaller ones while allowing the bigger ones to be the “draw”.
I’m honestly surprised they don’t charge for cloud storage for YouTube. Yea, they suck, but also who needs every piece of garbage uploaded in 4k?
Makes total sense for them. Videos made by small creators take just as much drive space and require just as much CDN distribution, but don’t give nearly as much profit or user engagement.
In essence, YouTube exists specifically because of big channels, and smaller ones are a burden to them.
makes total sense short term. makes little sense long term.
It doesn’t make long term sense, they are driving away the new big content creators, and will lose market share.
They have no competition to speak of so they feel comfortable squeezing their creators, this is only the start.
You’re thinking long term strategy, YT is owned by Alphabet, a publicly traded company, they are only able to think in quarters. All that matters is short term gains for investors, and besides once the short term gains run out the investors will just dump the stock and move on to extracting what they can from the next company.
Always has been
Reminds me of that woman who made science videos on both YouTube and Pornhub and she makes more money on Pornhub.
If I’m remembering correctly it was more money per view on pornhub but she had significantly more views on YouTube so the total amount per platform was still significantly in YouTube favor.
Still wild that a porn site theoretically pays better than Google.
Yeh, that’s why I love pornhub. The science is on point.
idk, pornhub brings google into your porn habits, I don’t want to deal with google at all.
That is actually interesting to know. Makes a person wonder what is the demographic watching the videos and why.
Then they removed their ads from all channels below 8,000 hours, right?.. Right?!
No, AFAIK they still push ads on you whether you’re monetized or not.
I got “removed” from adsense around 2005. There had better not be ads on my vids.
The end result is that channels will just post twice as much slop to get to those hours and actually human creators give up, meaning YouTube becomes even more sloppified.
As Google intended.
SlopTube powered by Sloople 🤭
That’s too bad. I was just about to start posting videos too.
Go PeerTube! We need more creators there, and some of the great ones are already on there
I do have an account! I try to follow as many creators as possible there.
I’ve been making shorts on Loops. I’m about to make my first 5 min+ video (although it’ll be geared toward Japanese people).
Nice! Can’t promise to follow you, but I’d like to know more about your content - that is, if you’re willing to share!
Why I just push Patreon or another platform fuck trying to earn money through YouTube that worthless.
A lot of YT creators are moving to OnlyFans.
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There is peertube as well, but it lacks monetization. And Patreon is not the answer because not many will bother paying each creator separately (it at all). To me subscription sounds like an ideal solution, but of course, not YouTube.
Nebula exists but I subscribed to it like during COVID with Curiosity Stream bundle, however, I find their UI confusing and content discovery was very hard.
Back when they had the Curiosity Stream bundle content discovery basically didn’t matter, because they barely had any content. You could check the site like two or three times a week and there’d be like 4 or 5 new videos each time.
It’s expanded a huge amount since then. And they’ve added a larger degree of content discovery stuff. Personally I mostly just go straight to the “Latest Videos” section (which, unlike the confusingly-similarly-named “New Releases” section, only shows the latest videos from channels you follow), but there are a bunch of other ways you can let it suggest content to you.
Right. I wish more people who post on YouTube would post also on alternatives such as Nebula. I mean it’s only profit for them, isn’t it?
Especially as someone paid in a currency weaker than the dollar with a lower salary than I’d have in the US, I can’t even afford to do this if I wanted to. I do still subscribe to Nebula which has many creators I like
Yeah, this unfortunately
Honestly that’s why I support YouTube creators on patreon and subscribe star
get fucked, that’s what you get from using google services
There is way too much obvious AI channels on youtube. I encountered them because I like football. A football youtuber called Vizeh did a video about this issue. It is very exhausting to browse youtube this way. I am sick and tired of it.
I’m sure this will result in much less stupid useless shit on YouTube.
But stupid useless shit is also the most popular stuff on YT! 😔
