I used to display Google ad links on my site, they accumulated value - slowly, but Google would only cut a check when you reach $100 worth of ads shown. My earnings approached $100 like an asymptote, halfway there in the first 6 months, 3/4 in the first year, 7/8 in the second year, 15/16 in the third… never did quite reach $100, and so my payout for all my effort and showing of their ads remains to this day $0.
Today I went on shorts and the first video was tucker carlson dropping antisemtic slurs while he cried about ben shapiro. I’m a lib. I don’t watch that garbage. straight up shithole company.
Big corp squeezing more money from people “because share holders want progress”. BS
Work for free before getting paid! There will still be ads on your videos, but they ain’t sharing the attention money.
good. hopefully this will improve the quality for the first time in 14 years or so. Monetization is essentially synonymous with enshittification. Less monetization -> less enshittification. Less need to put stupid red arrows and bug eyes on your thumbnails. etc. I don’t even care if youtube is just straight taking all the difference. Anything to decrease the number of people who are in it for the money is good.
Easy to say if you’re not a creator.
I write, edit, record, and publish everything I create, all by myself.
Devaluing smaller creators is going to mean more AI slop, because more people will be motivated to take shortcuts.
And those who don’t will probably quit. Creating authentic content and growing a channel takes time, and a lot more of it now.
I agree with you on quality, but I’d point out that YT is also requiring a lot of people to work for free.
Imagine if a mechanic’s boss told her they wouldn’t pay her until she changed the oil in 800 cars for free.
I remember what people made videos for fun. Good times.
We still do.
Nice. Would be good to see youtube go away or go back to people making things for the love it.
Sadly, needing to regulate for CSA, etc. causes it all to get centralized. Also, it’d be great if everyone could self-host their content and then post the searchable in a fediverse indexing host or something?
maybe youtube wants us to switch to torrents.
piracy? yes.
but they(youtube) honestly cant even afford to serve the content and remain profitable.
so…What do people on you tube have to do with Torrents? Much less paying those people?
peertube
So you are saying the relationship is: we can create torrents to have our peer to peer videos without youtube. Similar to how peertube handles it.
That makes more sense.
YouTube became evil the moment we all dislike-bombed their year in review video and they never made another one.
YouTube became evil when google ditched their slogan “don’t be evil!”.
So, it was evil from the start. It just needed to lure enough uncritical consumers in before enshittification started. Piece by piece.
YouTube became evil the moment Google got involved.
Maybe but YouTube wouldn’t have existed if it wasn’t for the years Google paid for it with no monetization in sight.
It was doing just fine until Google bought it.
YouTube says the changes are being introduced to “keep pace with the growth of YouTube, which now sees over 200 billion daily Shorts views and over a billion hours of watch time on TV” every day.
This reminds me of some past employment positions I had with extremely lucrative companies that, upon several employees having pushed and developed their skills to be able to reach production quotas (despite increasing safety hazards), simply raised production standards to avoid paying what was promised (certainly not meeting the threshold of what workers are worth).
In short, if you are a content creator on YouTube, do it for the love of your hobby and make money with your day job.
I subscribed to YouTube Red back in the day, when that’s what it was called.
Then circa early 2018 they changed the rules for monetisation from the previous 10k lifetime views to 1k subs & 4k watch hours over 12 months. That was when I unsubscribed from Red and installed an ad blocker. I had always been anti ad-blocker because my view was that people creating content deserve to get paid for it. That’s still my view in principle, but the increasing enshittification of the web thanks in no small part to shit like this from Google has meant I weigh the pros & cons differently. YouTube showed me very directly that they don’t care about supporting their creators. So I decided I didn’t want to support them anymore. It’s not like this was the first problem…the whole “where’s the fair use” thing came before that, and many other events besides. But cutting off small creators like that, without even grandfathering in existing creators who had been monetised with that threshold, was the last straw for me.
It was also Google’s fault that I moved from Ad Block Plus, which I chose specifically because of its “acceptable ads” policy (basically: let through ads that aren’t obnoxious), to uBlock Origin, which lacked such a policy, after YouTube tried blocking ad blockers from YouTube, and UBO was quicker to adapt.
That’s twice now that Google’s own actions have directly led to me supporting them less than I used to. This won’t be the third time, but only because I have no more cuts to give.
And they will never stop extracting more value. I just want to prop nebula here, it’s great for creators and there’s a lot of them already on there.
The only thing ‘missing’ is the commenting system, but to me that’s an upgrade.
And if you want comedy, Dropout (formerly College Humor) is a great service that openly encourages you sharing your account with your friends.
The only streaming platform I sub to is Dropout and I happily do it. I believe I stumbled upon Breaking News first, watched first season or so on the high seas. I was in tears from laughing and I’ve been subbed ever since. Great value for the money, imo.
Nebula is awesome. I took a gamble with them and bought lifetime during their second round two years ago and never regretted it. It has only been getting better, here’s to hope that they keep direction.
Comm Systems is essential for the community pointing out mistakes or wrong doings
Meanwhile, you set yourself up on PeerTube and add a Monero address to your tipping thing and people can tip you as soon as they want to, whether you have one view and less than a watch hour or billions of views and tons of watch hours.
Thank you for this suggestion.
At this point I’m convinced that yt just hates smaller creators.
Nah, they hate signing checks. Not that long ago, they had a push to bring views to smaller creators, and my algorithm definitely shifted to people with hundreds to thousands of subs, instead of the hundreds of thousands to millions folks.
Now they raise the payment threshold.
Result: big creators get less traffic (money) to “boost small creators”, small creators get less money because they’re too small. YouTube gets to keep more cash.
No. This is just how capitalism works; you steal from the smaller ones while allowing the bigger ones to be the “draw”.
I’m honestly surprised they don’t charge for cloud storage for YouTube. Yea, they suck, but also who needs every piece of garbage uploaded in 4k?
Makes total sense for them. Videos made by small creators take just as much drive space and require just as much CDN distribution, but don’t give nearly as much profit or user engagement.
In essence, YouTube exists specifically because of big channels, and smaller ones are a burden to them.
It doesn’t make long term sense, they are driving away the new big content creators, and will lose market share.
They have no competition to speak of so they feel comfortable squeezing their creators, this is only the start.
You’re thinking long term strategy, YT is owned by Alphabet, a publicly traded company, they are only able to think in quarters. All that matters is short term gains for investors, and besides once the short term gains run out the investors will just dump the stock and move on to extracting what they can from the next company.
makes total sense short term. makes little sense long term.
Always has been
I like the animated stuff like monkey wrench and lackadaisy and and my stories and the science and engineering videos and the sovcit public meltdown vids. I’m not sure where else to go for those. I don’t think I find as much on nebula and I’ve heard peer tube kinda has a never-grew-up vibe to it.
Then they removed their ads from all channels below 8,000 hours, right?.. Right?!
No, AFAIK they still push ads on you whether you’re monetized or not.
I got “removed” from adsense around 2005. There had better not be ads on my vids.
