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    SOME Laws are OK to Break!

    -People CHEERING on the Kidnapping of Children whose Parents are here ALMOST Legally!

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    “DHS chief says ICE will be killed at polling stations for preventing voting” is what actual, freedom-loving Americans should be saying.

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    When a country has a gestapo and uses state terrorism to suppress opposition… Isn’t there a word for that?

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    Administration continues to plan treason and nobody stops them.

    If the president says he’s going to interfere in the election, he should be immediately impeached and removed from office as soon as possible! Instead everybody says he’s just joking and my therapist thinks I shouldn’t worry until I know for sure something bad is going to happen

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      Maybe citizens who got citizenship because they were born in US but they parents were migrants. Maybe they want to take their passports and deport with others (like germans did with german jews before WWII, they basically canceled their citizenships)

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      I mean, I’m very white, but it still feels like this with all their false positives. Even if they don’t actually shoot me, I have a ton of medical issues and will 1000% for6 in their prison.

      Still won’t vote orange though.

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    DOJ has TOLD the Supreme Court what the law REALLY is.

    DOJ must know more about law than the Supreme Court.

    Then…what do we need the Supreme Court for???

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    Immigration and custom enforcement in places deep inside the country where only citizens gather.

    Right… how stupid do you need to be to still believe this is about immigration?

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      I don’t know why after a decade of Trump people think “ummm akshually that’s illegal” means anything.

      They’re breaking the law. Openly. THEY ARE DABBING ON YOU.

      The question isn’t if they can legally - they cannot. Nor if they can - they are. It’s what are you going to do to stop them?

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        In the Untied States it’s illegal to depict a living person on a coin. Trump coins are a monument to the law not applying to him

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      As long as the DOJ is controlled by Trump they won’t charge him over anything no matter how blatantly he is rigging the election in his favor and how obvious it is that he should have lost.

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        Remember when Bill Clinton met Loretta Lynch on a tarmac and the Republicans completely lost their shit?

        A former president being seen speaking with the current Attorney General, and it was a massive fucking deal. Because they made it a massive deal, and Democrats allowed them to make it into a massive deal.

        Don’t ever let Republicans claim to care about this kind of shit.

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          Don’t ever let Republicans claim to care about this kind of shit.

          It’s cute that you think you can stop Republicans from lying, or that they give a shit about hypocrisy.

          They don’t. That’s why they’re winning.

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            I’m saying that people need to stop giving them the benefit of the doubt. Especially Democrats who allow them to pull this shit over and over again.

            Edit: the media as well. Constantly sane-washing

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              By Democrats, you mean the elected officials in that party?

              They don’t give them the benefit of the doubt - they just don’t care about stopping them.

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        Yes but the Democrats will maybe come into power eventually and they’ll need something to pardon Trump over

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      I had to look it up to see what Trump/DHS’s unconstitutional argument will be to ignore this. The “…” omitted sections show pretty clearly what they will say:

      Whoever, being an officer of the Army or Navy, or other person in the civil, military, or naval service of the United States, orders, brings, keeps, or has under his authority or control any troops or armed men at any place where a general or special election is held, unless such force be necessary to repel armed enemies of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both; and be disqualified from holding any office of honor, profit, or trust under the United States. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/592

      “…is held, unless such force is necessary to repel armed enemies of the United States, shall be fined…”

      So their first-year-law-school failing DOJ leads will argue that they need ICE there to stop voter fraud, which force is necessary to “repel armed enemies of the United States” since hypothetically the rampant fraudsters could be armed.

      Either Trump will just do it without any lawsuit-ripening warning, or if his demented brain reveals his plans early and a suit is filed in time, the Supreme Court will hear the emergency appeal of the inevitable district and appellate findings that it is unconstitutional, and issue a shadow docket ruling that overturns the (ruling upholding the) Constitution without comment or reasoning.

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        Not sure if the supreme court will do anything. Already declined to intervene on the USPS issue, saying damage needs to be done first

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        This was the entire point. Nullify the DOJ to create immunity, and disregard the law themselves. Then twist it and weaponize it towards the people opposing them.

        This is where we’re at. Remember when we were screaming about project 2025 and everyone was trying to tell us to calm down, saying “They’d never be able to do that?”

        Well, they did it.

        Fascists don’t seize power all at once. They test, backtrack and go two steps forward. They utilize the boiling frog effect.

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        since hypothetically the rampant fraudsters could be armed.

        yes, we’ve already established that ICE/Trump brownshirts will be there.

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        They’re also not part of the military so I feel like this may not apply? I dunno I’m no legal expert.

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    In the mean time democrats are fighting Hassan Piker. For fuck sakes… They’re responsible for bring back orange turd as much as the republicans

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      And you are fighting democrats. “Socialists” spend more time attacking democrats than they spend on attacking republicans.

      Hasan Piker is millionaire that’s on the front page of a website owned by Jeff Bezos every night. What is it with Americans always getting scammed by the wealthy?

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          Hate to tell you this, but I’m pretty sure Jeff Bezos isn’t for taxing the rich. Hasan Piker is a millionaire, so he doesn’t want that either. He’s gotta give that some lip service to keep his audience, but his primary goal is to promote racial tensions. This is how the wealthy have been keeping people divided for a very long time, so you’re unable to make a unified effort to tax the wealthy, and do trust busting. I doubt Hasan ever even mentions trust busting, that’s simply not in the public discourse at all. Because wealthy people like Jeff Bezos have control over what people are seeing and are able to keep certain things from entering into people’s minds.

          Hasan is in the wealthy class, and his job is to keep you from thinking about things Jeff Bezos doesn’t want you to think about. The fact is Biden was doing antitrust actions against Amazon and others, then suddenly monetized leftism turned against Democrats. Whether that’s a coincidence isn’t all that relevant. The nature of algorithmic information consumption is you’re fed what’s in the interests of the wealthy regardless of the intent of the content creator. If a leftist is saying Democrats are bad because of Israel stuff, while the wealthy think Democrats are bad because of antitrust and higher taxes, they don’t care about the reason why you turn against Democrats, only that you stay home instead of voting for a party that’s against their interests.

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    I’m a 6 for tall white male. If anyone gets in front of me before I vote in person, I’m going to fuck up your day. And if you attempt to stop anyone else from voting, I’m gonna spend the same energy. Fuck this Nazi shit.

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    I think its time for citizens to start pushing back against this gestapo bullshit. We outnumber these pussies like 100 to 1

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      We outnumber them hella more than that. The question is, have you been organizing in your community?

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          Cool People who did Cool Stuff can remind you. One small example, teenage girls were going around murking nazis on the regular. They found others to help. Unrelated to the US, but a cool story of community resistance.

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          Literally everything that is spy work, subterfuge, being an opposing army, etc is community organizing of some kind. You have to find the community within that wants to take the risks to do these things.

          So, to answer your question, 100% community organizing stopped the Nazis.

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          Considering the USSR by and large killed more Nazis than anybody, I’d say a shitload of community organizing stopped them.

          Show up alone, you get arrested. Show up with 100 people, you get shot. Show up with 100,000 people, now we have a movement. Will your neighbors show up with you? Or will you face the Nazis alone?

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      2003 was time for citizens to start pushing back against gestapo bullshit. You’ve been allowing them to increase their advantage for a couple decades now.

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      I’m all ears. Where do we start? Who’s organizing a nationwide operation? What time and place? What’s the plan?

      Are we prepared to be beaten, imprisoned and killed?

      Should I attempt to be a one-man operation?

      Will there be snacks and drinks?

      Who’s in on this, anyone? We need at least about 5-10 million of us to stand a chance. Are we going to occupy Washington and be prepared to deal with armed struggle? It would be “fun” to Zerg the White House and burn it to the ground. A lot of us will probably get mowed down in the process.

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        Will there be snacks and drinks?

        I’ve always made a point to bring orange sections, soccer practice style, to protests myself

        We need at least about 5-10 million of us to stand a chance

        Read Che’s Guerrilla War. You don’t need that many to start.

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    I’ve called it a while back. Make a database of people’s political affiliation using social media posts and other sources. Have agents sit outside polling places with facial recognition technology that flags anyone on that database that is likely to vote Democrat and detain a number of them until the polling ends then release them without charge. This prevents them from voting and can have a significant impact on the outcome of the elections.

    On top of that they’re going to have mail in ballots thrown out, further interfering with free and fair elections.

    This is coming. Trump knows he will have his ass absolutely handed to him in the mid terms given his well-deserved abysmal approval rating. Better fight back now.

    And if the US ever manages to recover from this blatant establishment of a dictatorship, every single one of those who participated at this should be charged at the fullest extent of the law. There is no claiming ignorance of what they’re doing. Even floating the idea of sending ICE to arrest people at polling places is a violation. They know damn well that they’re rigging the election.

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      They know it, and they know that we know it. They don’t care. That’s what people aren’t seeing straight enough. Trump and the Guardians Of Pedophiles ate blatantly trying to cheat amd telling people how much they’re going to cheat. Now, show me one, single US citizen that’s done anything concrete to actually stop him. I’ll wait. Instead, there will be more protests. Then he’ll call the protesters unpatriotic traitors and MAGAts will eat it up. They’ll not only cheer for him as he sacrifices our democratic elections, they’ll say it was the right thing to do to “save America” from people smarter than them. Which is everyone too intelligent to be a MAGAt.

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        They’re daring us to try and stop them by force, in order to invoke the exception in the law another commenter cited. They want to pretend that us trying to stop their coup makes us the “armed enemies of the United States” instead of them.

        This is the consequence of failing to prosecute Trump for Jan 6.

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        there will be more protests

        Where people stay in their designated protest areas during the designated protest times in order to not be too much of a bother. Need to make sure they’re back to work on time Monday morning for the oligarchs! Oh, and clean up after yourselves before you leave too to make it as easy as possible for everyone to pretend to never happened…

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          Nolan Bushnell?

          I mean, I’d count Luigi among others. And taking them out is a lot more effective than taking yourself out IMHO.

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      Have agents sit outside polling places with facial recognition technology that flags anyone on that database that is likely to vote Democrat and detain a number of them until the polling ends then release them without charge.

      I learned something interesting about the upcoming Brazilian elections the other day that seems intended to counter exactly this kind of thing: there’s a law (and perhaps it’s in the constitution, I don’t recall exactly) that says that no one shall be arrested for a couple of days around the election date, unless someone is caught in the act of a crime or if it’s for a major crime.