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Oh… a single issue voter. You’ll be voting Republican within a few years. Maybe it’s better if you don’t vote.

I haven’t been exposed to shit. Have you not been listening?

I don’t think you’re listening.

You’re on the internet, you’ve been exposed to foreign propaganda. If you’re conscious of it, you’ll be able to better spot it.

If you insist on being so naive and pretend everything that makes you outraged on the internet must be real, you’re open to manipulation.

Thank you for confirming my post. You have no clue about socialism other than USSR.

You’re lacking in reading comprehension. The working class doesn’t care about your hair splitting. You’re in a socialist movement that’s incapable of communicating with the working class. But your post confirms this… you care more about sounding smart than convincing anyone of anything.

Also socialism in the common usage (e.g. non hair splitting lefties) covers from anarchism to European style soc-dems.

Lemmy and the content algorithmically recommended to you (by systems created by capitalism) is no “common usage”. You’re in a bubble and you can’t handle anything coming from outside your bubble.

Hasan Piker is currently on the front page of a website owned by Jeff Bezos. You never question why that is LOL.

So you don’t know what socialism is and its different types. Wikipedia has a nice overview.

Do you think anyone in the working class has the time to read a bunch of hair-splitting from academia? The USSR had socialist in it’s name. The word socialist will always have a connotation of “something to do with the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics”. You’re the ones who chose to describe yourselves with a loaded and ambiguous word. You’ve chosen to always be on the defensive in the political arena. Whoever you’re debating with can just say “I don’t want breadlines” and win the debate, because nobody in the working class has time for academic hair-splitting.

So you don’t know much about macroeconomics either. Supply-side is just a set if tools which works in certain conditions like a supply shock.

Ok so you’re pedantic. When I talk about supply-side economics, I’m talking about reaganomics, trickle down, all of that bullshit, not some specific “certain conditions”. Obviously.

Russia went from a country lagging ~80 years behind Europe to the first space faring country.

How many people starved to death in that time period? How many people got sent to the gulag?

Also I note how you are simultaneously saying “there’s many forms of socialism” to distance yourself from the Soviet Union while also wanting to stick up for the Soviet Union. You’re not coming across as honest here.

And this is why socialism loses in any debate from the perspective of the working class. It only works in academia. Some “socialists” (whatever that even means) may win in safe Dem districts with a large number of people that went to university and took a poli-sci class. It loses in any debate from the perspective of the working class. Academics fail at being able to communicate with the working class. If you were serious about communicating with the working class, you’d stop using the word “socialist”. But you won’t because the point of 21st century socialism is to impress your peers, not to be effective.

Keynes was about something else (understanding that an economy is a closed / semi-closed system which lead to the concept of a fiscal multiplier which is still being studied.).

We know Keynesian policies and trust busting solved similar economic problems we’re having now. We know absolutist socialism failed.

Long johns… it’s the only way to be sure.

How cute, you’re a millennial and so you think that makes you special. You’ve been exposed to imagery of a war on the other side of the world and so you think it entitles you to be an asshole to people where you live.

It may be hard for you to accept, but you’re not all that much different from the boomers. Just mindlessly consuming things on the internet that make you angry. Not giving any thought about who is making you angry and for what purpose. Boomers tend to gravitate towards the Russian propaganda, while you gravitate towards Chinese and Iranian propaganda.

The only thing that I find offensive about the Iran conflict is that western lives and resources are being wasted fighting people we have no reason to hate.

The Iranian regime is making you hateful. It’s easier to convince people of lies than it is to convince people they’ve been lied to.

My conversations with younger generations are basically identical to my conversations with boomers. Same tendency towards conspiracy theories, same distrust of any media source that’s not conforming to their feelings. Your generation doesn’t make you anything special.

The Governor pardons state crimes, not the President.

Are you so naive as to think the Lego videos were the only thing they’ve produced? Iran is behind only China and Russia in terms of internet propaganda operations. It’s fairly trivial to count the number of accounts on social media that are active every day, but coincidentally not active at times when the power’s out in Iran. They operate troll farms same as China and Russia does.

How do you think the Lego videos came out of nowhere and got picked up by the algorithms? Upvoted by the troll farms.

I’ve seen some strange activity on Lemmy like the exact same content being posted from multiple accounts. Always pro-Iran and anti-Israel.

You’re being incredibly naive if you think they just put out some cute little Lego videos and nothing else. You’re the target of an information warfare campaign, and it seems to be working. You need to think a little more about what content you’d expect troll farms in China, Russia, and Iran would be producing.

Thinking democracy is supposed to be about “having it your way and right away” is why democracy is failing in the US. That’s the Burger King slogan, not how democracy works.

Americans don’t approach voting as making a decision, y’all think of it more like buying a product. You act like consumers, not like citizens with a duty.

Democracy is a grind. You vote in every election over decades. You hold your nose and vote for the least worst option so there will be a better least worst option in the next election. You’re supposed to vote as part of your duty as a citizen, to be the ultimate check on power. Authoritarian populists lie and say “vote for me and you’ll never need to vote again” to appeal to the entitled laziness of Americans, and it works.

The narcissism of Americans mean they can’t compromise and vote for someone unless they like them, want to have a beer with them, say the right slogans, or whatever. It’s all about being coded to whatever aesthetic the base likes. Policies, checks on power, rights, these things don’t motivate Americans to vote. Americans are primarily motivated by narcissism so they vote (or not vote) according to how it will appear to their peer group.

There’s a difference between justice and revenge. There is no such thing as revenge against a country. Germany still exists today even after the horrible crimes committed by that country in the past.

You’re being told by Iranian propaganda that you’re supposed to hate a country. But hatred doesn’t make you strong, it only makes you stupid and gullible. Willing to die just to serve the interests of some psychopath.

Socialism failed. You have a bunch of people making excuses for it, but it obvious to anyone with any common sense that a system involving excessive central planning always winds up being an Animal Farm kind of thing. This has been proven by history but there’s people making dumb excuses about how the started conditions weren’t right and “next time it will work for sure.” Socialists are basically that old guy from Jurassic Park.

Supply side economics failed. Should be obvious that businesses aren’t benevolent organizations that are going to “create jobs” just because they have some extra money lying around. They aren’t charities, they’re businesses.

Reasonable people understand that neither extreme works. It makes sense to use more socialist policies where it makes sense to (like healthcare) and have regulated capitalism where that makes sense. The peak of human prosperity was under a capitalist system before the oil crisis of the 1970s (and before Reagan). Maybe we should go back to “we’re all Keynesian now” kind of system because that fucking worked? Instead what a lot of people learned was oil dependence is good (despite oil crises always causing economic problems) and if the wealthy are even wealthier then that’s good for everyone somehow. It’s as dumb as socialists believing some altruistic vibes by the people in power will make everything work out.

But the internet has resulted in people being incapable of understanding anything beyond “thing good” or “thing bad” and preferring slogans and populism over economic policies that have been proven to work. Compromise is considered a bad thing to those with brain rot, so people are gravitating towards radical extremes which have been proven by history to be complete failures.

You’d just have two parties debating over which failed system is better.

Yes they follow the orders of the civilian leadership which are democratically elected. The democratically elected civilian leadership is political but that’s fine since they can be removed from power via democratic elections.

The problem with having a military making political decisions is how do you remove them from power if you disagree with their political decisions?

The lack of Americans voting for people to effect the remedy is an even bigger statement.

Americans are too narcissistic to ever consider that they may have made any bad decisions and so won’t change their own actions to make things better. Instead they just sit around blaming democracy, the free press, the Jews, etc. and slide further into fascism.

Yep. Alt-righties / racists are still on the “secret cabal of Jews is why your life has problems” schtick

Most leftists are the same, they’re just more politically correct about it.

I agree with his sentiment, but I don’t think it’s a good thing for a military to be political.

He did his protest while in uniform, which means he’s representing the military while making political statement.

Even a political military that agrees with me is bad, because they might someday not agree with me. They have more guns than me, so they’d be the ones making political decisions without any regard to whether I agree with them.

He seems to be raising money on sites like gofundme, and will probably start a podcast after he’s discharged. I’m guessing that’s his play. He knows full well this is the end of his military career. Saying he’s “risking everything” seems a little silly. He’s knowingly changing careers.

Pffft… flat earth is just something pushed by the map making cartels. If the earth was flat then why is Mexico at a higher altitude? Checkmate, flat earthers.

Look at a globe… when you’re going south you’re going uphill.

I think you might’ve replied to the wrong comment?

Unless Sony is planning on selling digital meth LOL.