The bodies were found Friday inside the Grand Haven residence, police said, and the children were 5 to 15 years old.
A man fatally shot his wife and their six children before he set the Michigan home they shared ablaze and turned the gun on himself, authorities said Monday.
Kristopher Karolkiewicz, 47, killed his wife, Amanda, 39, and their children, ages 5 to 15, Ottawa County Sheriff’s Capt. Jake Sparks said at a news conference.
They were found dead after first responders arrived at the home in Grand Haven, on the eastern shore of Lake Michigan, late Friday morning, Sparks said. Autopsies showed all had been shot, he said.
It’s a disturbingly prevalent mindset really. The idea that the patriarch, the pater familias, literally owns the family. That his wife and children are possessions to do with as he pleases. In ancient Rome it was litteral. He could kill them if he wished. Not even unique to Rome. Its still around today. A sick aspect of conservative ideology that persists and infects society the world over.
Its the sickening undercurrent to conservative “parents rights” arguments.
Is it that, or is it that he’s the sole earner and losing his job means hardships for them he wants to spare them from?
Not saying it’s not a fucked up thing to do, but maybe, just maybe, we need better support for mens mental health instead of assuming it’s because their evil.
I’m not entirely sure you meant to respond to me since none of your comment really seems to match up with mine. Particularly that second half.
However if you did mean to respond to me, I find your first sentence incredibly telling. Look how you worded that. He wants to spare them. He wants. You’ve betrayed the exact mindset I’m talking about. The idea that he owns them. That he gets to take make decisions on behalf of them because he owns them. That’s exactly what I’m talking about. A pervasive mindset that family is property to the father. That children are property of their parents in general.
Exactly, he may want to spare them that pain, but he obviously didn’t talk it over with them to figure out what they’d prefer. He’s decided they’re all dying no matter what they want.