I never said I’ve been shut down. I said I’ve noticed the phenomenon around. Critics of Islam tend to be attacked as racists or bigots. Intellectually lazy counter-argument that’s trying to gaslight people instead of counter-arguing the argument itself.

How has that been working out for you?

You are pretty much the only person I’ve ever had this conversation with. I’m staying with “this guy misinterpreted me and assumed I have some different agenda or hidden motives/hate towards something else, therefore everything he said is not meant to be taken literally, but I should look for hidden psychological signs that could support my assumptions”

As to your other comment. This harkens back to my original musing that you haven’t spent a lot of time talking about this hence why you keep playing sophomoric cards.

Nothing I said is stupid, it is quite logical. You are overthinking this. You literally proved my point with this conversation, but you will never understand it, because you are what I’m talking about.

Thank you (as I will be archiving this for further discussions with others in my … uhh, brainstorming group, no clue how to translate it. Want to get more objective opinion) and I wish you great day too.

That Lemmy is left leaning and they can see through your veiled attacks on Muslims as racist and not anti-religion? I think this is clear even if you disagree with it.

Alright, I challenge you to criticize religions. I will then ask you to verify if said criticism applies to Islam. If you say yes, I can call you racist. This is how I see this whole argument.

Why are you so afraid of racism?

For starters - religion is not a race. Sure, you could say it’s notoriously Asian, but it is followed by every race.

Just pointing out how other people see things. You think that everyone is preventing you from saying valid criticism when in reality you just come off as someone with latent racism.

But why? I’m still dumbfounded. Your answer perfectly plays into my initial argument that I can shit on every religion, but if I say those literally same words against Muslims, then I’m not anti-religion, suddenly I’m racist. You never argued against that point, I felt like you constantly tried to gaslight me.

My agenda is pointing out that you want to talk shit about Muslims but feel you can’t on Lemmy and the real motivation behind that

Like talking to a wall

The fact that you are so aggressive in your denial tells me all that I need to know.

I explained my appearance of aggressiveness in my second comment. Please read again. I’m not aggressive, I appear aggressive. I’m not sure about what denial are you talking about.

I did review your comments since you invited me to and I didn’t see any general anti-religious talk.

Like I said.

I also saw several red flags that lead me to believe you are anti-immigrant which plugs nicely into the anti-Muslim sentiment.

Russians are not Muslims and weaponized immigrant’s religion is irrelevant. Completely different situations. Please look up what is happening/happened on Poland and Baltic borders with Belarus.

I am guessing you have some latent racists beliefs that you have never confronted

I honestly don’t understand your brain gymnastics. How do you even come to this conclusion after everything? Please, show me one comment that would portray me as racist (except comments against white supremacists, I think we can both agree those can eat shit).

EDIT: I’m fairly sure at some point I wrote my real life experience here how I grew up in a racist country but completely changed my mind after learning English and opening my eyes to wider world view, but that was early Lemmy days, so I really don’t feel like looking it up. I could say that majority of my favourite artists are non-white, but I feel like that’s a stupid argument

You had obviously been waiting to unload your anti-muslim sentiment

You could not be more wrong. I live in a region that sees no Muslims. I literally do not care. They affect zero things in my life. Again, for the third time - I’m anti-religion, not anti-muslim, but you default to defending one specific group out of all. What’s your agenda?

I also see that you were basically complaining you can’t talk shit about Muslims, lamenting your inability to talk shit because the community would shut you down.

I literally said I outgrew that. I also said I had no plans to write any of this until you promted me to, directly

Where is your Christian criticism if you are actually anti-religious and not just anti-muslim?

For the third time, literally everything I said applies to every religion. My point had always been that I’m not talking about one specific one - arguments work against all of them. This was my initial argument. Anti-religion, not anti-muslim, but somehow one always seems way spicier to talk about, even tho it’s just another religion.

Let me give you a spicy example - imagine I hate every human, just straight up human hater - white, yellow, brow-HOLY SHIT THATS RACIST, YOU MENTIONED BROWN PEOPLE - but it was never about brown people.

Besides, I’m 100% sure you could find comments on my profile shitting on Christians and Catholics, likely more than Islam, but likely only few since like I said - not my thing anymore. Let me be blunt with my words - Islam is not better than any other religion, it’s just like every other. People defending it like it is better, are the type of people I’m talking about.

This is not a game to see which religion was worse because I can assure you Christians are equal in death and destruction to Muslims in history and in modern times they hold no equal.

You’re starting to understand. So close, yet you still said my arguments are anti-muslim sentiment, not anti-religion, which ironically proves my initial argument, which you still don’t fully understand. That’s fine/understandable/expected. Yet it’s interesting that if I say those things about other religions, it’s justified and normal, but me adding “Islam” to the mix suddenly becomes anti-muslim sentiment and raised your eyebrow.

About LGBT stuff - you’re thinking of unofficial statements and interpretations, not what the teachings or religious leaders say.

https://www.anic.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Islams-Clear-Position-on-Homosexuality.pdf

I sometimes don’t quite understand why is a porn site used by government agencies to push news.

Having a valid criticism is not shitting on anything.

Sorry, I grew up in Eastern Europe in rather harsh environment and my way of talking tends to sound aggressive or slang-ish. I’m aware of this, yet fail to not do it.

It is too bad you no longer are provocative about religion

I initially had no plans to argument back as I’ve always seen these conversations pointless and mine-fielded, but okay;

For instance, Catholics rightfully get a lot of hate for child abuse.

What is the story of Aisha? Why is marrying a child core part of religious teachings in Islam? Why are Muslim countries on average having lower age of consent (ie. Iran - 13)? Look up child abuse in Islamic/Quranic schools. The interesting thing is, unlike western world with million cameras, microphones, bloggers and free media, those places are not like that, so whatever you hear here is probably going down in ME too, except hush hush - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0145213424006288

In the case of Evangelicals, they just make shit up about gays, transgender, rapture, etc

So what does Islam say about LGBT and sinners?

They lean heavily on government to promote their bigoted views thus violating basic tenants of church and government separation

“Islamic State” and “Islamic revolution”.

For every “white knight” as you put it there are a hundred bigoted black knights

Not denying, but this feels like a logical fallacy argument - reflecting/whataboutism, which plays nicely with my initial argument.

All my arguments are essentially pointing out that same things you use as arguments against other religions pretty much always work against Islam.

I’ll watch these after work, but surely the problem is not availability of water, but drinking water, which is another story? Data centers aim for clean water sources which can be used for drinking. Turf grass don’t need that which makes the comparison seem unfair

Astronomers: Am I a joke to you?

Why are you making shit up? Wtf even is this lmao.

EDIT: Ooh I didn’t even notice the username. Welcome back my good old schizophrenic friend. Forgot the pills again? You were literally the one that defended idea of genocides. I somehow assumed you’d be banned for hate speech by now as I stopped seeing you around constantly calling for violence against groups/races you don’t like

I got curious what exactly were the views of (historically accurate) nazis towards religion and stumbled upon this

In contrast to this, Hitler seemingly praised Islam during several talks with intimate political and military allies, describing Islam as a religion of warriors

I did not expect that lmao

Wasn’t July supposed to be hotter and August the hottest? This heatwave felt like a demo

You’re literally proving my point. Y’all are shitting on Catholics, Christianity, don’t even get me started on Judaism/Jews/Zionism, but as soon as you say exactly the same thing you say about other religions, but towards Islam, you will trigger thousand white knights and be labelled a racist.

Don’t get me wrong, I pretty much grew out of edginess and don’t bother with insulting any religion, but it’s just an interesting phenomenon I’ve noticed here and on other platforms.

Growing up, I somehow expected that after 20-30 years thanks to technological advancements, people would just quit religion en masses/realize no one is protecting us, leading to every religion being hated. Somehow that partly happened with nearly all religions getting hate, even here on Lemmy, except for one - Islam

What’s with this phenomenon? Are they simply a majority?

EDIT: A more correct term would be immune against hate, not getting hate, as hating on Islam in society is basically racism now

For Europeans, that’s around $0.52 per litle

It’s a class action submitted by few consumers. Will see how this goes, but I highly doubt it’s like before where they were literally keeping ram away from markets to inflate the prices, otherwise commitments on building more fabs seem weird if they’d want maximum return, but now they’re taking risks since it’s quite unclear if the AI demand will stay like this in the future.

I get what you’re saying, but after around 15 years of using all sorts of SSDs - I personally stopped thinking about write wear. I have not had a single SSD fail due to wear, those that failed have always failed at controller.

I keep using Shadowplay 24/7. I’m using an old SSD (840 120gb) for that from god knows what year, but it shows 1% health for 5 years now with no signs of actual degradation happening, only smart warnings for years now.

This disk was also running OS for 4-5 years.

I’m not entirely sure, but I feel like this guy likes Elden Ring