• Doomsider@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    You had obviously been waiting to unload your anti-muslim sentiment. I understand that. I also see that you were basically complaining you can’t talk shit about Muslims, lamenting your inability to talk shit because the community would shut you down.

    Where is your Christian criticism if you are actually anti-religious and not just anti-muslim?

    You can guess where I am going with this which is what your original comment provoked.

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      You had obviously been waiting to unload your anti-muslim sentiment

      You could not be more wrong. I live in a region that sees no Muslims. I literally do not care. They affect zero things in my life. Again, for the third time - I’m anti-religion, not anti-muslim, but you default to defending one specific group out of all. What’s your agenda?

      I also see that you were basically complaining you can’t talk shit about Muslims, lamenting your inability to talk shit because the community would shut you down.

      I literally said I outgrew that. I also said I had no plans to write any of this until you promted me to, directly

      Where is your Christian criticism if you are actually anti-religious and not just anti-muslim?

      For the third time, literally everything I said applies to every religion. My point had always been that I’m not talking about one specific one - arguments work against all of them. This was my initial argument. Anti-religion, not anti-muslim, but somehow one always seems way spicier to talk about, even tho it’s just another religion.

      Let me give you a spicy example - imagine I hate every human, just straight up human hater - white, yellow, brow-HOLY SHIT THATS RACIST, YOU MENTIONED BROWN PEOPLE - but it was never about brown people.

      Besides, I’m 100% sure you could find comments on my profile shitting on Christians and Catholics, likely more than Islam, but likely only few since like I said - not my thing anymore. Let me be blunt with my words - Islam is not better than any other religion, it’s just like every other. People defending it like it is better, are the type of people I’m talking about.

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        2 days ago

        My agenda is pointing out that you want to talk shit about Muslims but feel you can’t on Lemmy and the real motivation behind that. The fact that you are so aggressive in your denial tells me all that I need to know.

        I did review your comments since you invited me to and I didn’t see any general anti-religious talk. I also saw several red flags that lead me to believe you are anti-immigrant which plugs nicely into the anti-Muslim sentiment.

        I am guessing you have some latent racists beliefs that you have never confronted. Being in denial about this is not a good look, but entirely understandable.

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          My agenda is pointing out that you want to talk shit about Muslims but feel you can’t on Lemmy and the real motivation behind that

          Like talking to a wall

          The fact that you are so aggressive in your denial tells me all that I need to know.

          I explained my appearance of aggressiveness in my second comment. Please read again. I’m not aggressive, I appear aggressive. I’m not sure about what denial are you talking about.

          I did review your comments since you invited me to and I didn’t see any general anti-religious talk.

          Like I said.

          I also saw several red flags that lead me to believe you are anti-immigrant which plugs nicely into the anti-Muslim sentiment.

          Russians are not Muslims and weaponized immigrant’s religion is irrelevant. Completely different situations. Please look up what is happening/happened on Poland and Baltic borders with Belarus.

          I am guessing you have some latent racists beliefs that you have never confronted

          I honestly don’t understand your brain gymnastics. How do you even come to this conclusion after everything? Please, show me one comment that would portray me as racist (except comments against white supremacists, I think we can both agree those can eat shit).

          EDIT: I’m fairly sure at some point I wrote my real life experience here how I grew up in a racist country but completely changed my mind after learning English and opening my eyes to wider world view, but that was early Lemmy days, so I really don’t feel like looking it up. I could say that majority of my favourite artists are non-white, but I feel like that’s a stupid argument

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            2 days ago

            I am sorry, I am not trying to attack you. Just pointing out how other people see things. You think that everyone is preventing you from saying valid criticism when in reality you just come off as someone with latent racism.

            The fact that you grew up in a racist environment only reinforces my opinion of you. I am glad to hear you have taken some steps away from the toxic culture you grew up in.

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              Just pointing out how other people see things. You think that everyone is preventing you from saying valid criticism when in reality you just come off as someone with latent racism.

              But why? I’m still dumbfounded. Your answer perfectly plays into my initial argument that I can shit on every religion, but if I say those literally same words against Muslims, then I’m not anti-religion, suddenly I’m racist. You never argued against that point, I felt like you constantly tried to gaslight me.

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                2 days ago

                How are you dumbfounded?

                That Lemmy is left leaning and they can see through your veiled attacks on Muslims as racist and not anti-religion? I think this is clear even if you disagree with it.

                Or are you dumbfounded because based upon what you have said I feel you have latent racism you have never confronted? This is my opinion based upon our interaction.

                Why are you so afraid of racism? Everyone is somewhat racist so it is not a big deal honestly. You even admit you have taken steps to distance yourself from it so you recognize it. That is a good thing.

                You may need some more work on deprogramming yourself from decades of ingrained racism. There is no shame in this. I think you are being a little dishonest trying to shift your problem onto the community. It is totally understandable though.

                Essentially I see this as a “everyone else is wrong/the problem” situation. This means either your right (not likely) or there is something else going on (more likely).

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                  That Lemmy is left leaning and they can see through your veiled attacks on Muslims as racist and not anti-religion? I think this is clear even if you disagree with it.

                  Alright, I challenge you to criticize religions. I will then ask you to verify if said criticism applies to Islam. If you say yes, I can call you racist. This is how I see this whole argument.

                  Why are you so afraid of racism?

                  For starters - religion is not a race. Sure, you could say it’s notoriously Asian, but it is followed by every race.

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                    2 days ago

                    I already know how you see the argument. How has that been working out for you?

                    As to your other comment. This harkens back to my original musing that you haven’t spent a lot of time talking about this hence why you keep playing sophomoric cards.

                    I hope you have a good day sir.