What an absolutely condescending response. A majority of Democrats that have conceded to Republican positions is no better or worse for me than Republicans. Overall, and long term, it is a much more damaging position for the Democrats to cede civil rights positions.
No, that would be your party spending the last forty years working their asses off to ensure that the conditions in which fascism can arise would blanket the whole country.
The Republicans couldn’t have done in two decades as much damage to the country as Clinton did in two terms.
See that’s the problem. “Your party” vs. “Our party”
We have a two party system, by design. It’s a stupid design, but it’s the design. So as long as we are broken into “Progressives”, “Democrats” and “Republicans”, progressives and democrats are going to continue to lose and the far right will continue to move to the white because they can, there is nothing stopping them. They don’t have to cowtow to the reasoned left, they can just ignore it because they know the left will continue to fight each other and end up being fucking useless in the process.
We need to figure out how to bring Progressives and Democrats together…and calling Democrats “just as bad” isn’t going to do that at all…
Like it or not, Democrats have the fundraising, and fundraising wins elections, so maybe figure out a way to get them onboard rather than demonizing them. You need them more than they need you.
And that’s the only correct thing in your reply. Since we have that system by design, what in the world makes you think the people who designed it would ever allow you to use it to vote away their wealth and power?
We need to figure out how to bring Progressives and Democrats together
Under the banner of a revolutionary socialist party that isn’t interested in asking at the ballot box for permission to stop fascism.
Like it or not, Democrats have the fundraising, and fundraising wins elections
And if you can’t see how that implies that the Democrats are just as much a part of the problem as Republicans, then I’m not sure there’s any hope for you.
And that’s the only correct thing in your reply. Since we have that system by design, what in the world makes you think the people who designed it would ever allow you to use it to vote away their wealth and power?
I’m just saying that short a constitution convention to change it, we have what we have and it’s never going to change because structurally it can’t change… So we work within the system to fix it, but that requires incremental change, not something people seem to embrace…
Vote the furthest left in EVERY election, and we get that incremental change. If we give up and walk away, the right wins and nothing changes.
We need to figure out how to bring Progressives and Democrats together
Under the banner of a revolutionary socialist party that isn’t interested in asking at the ballot box for permission to stop fascism.
Still won’t work… short of violent revolution, which might result in some short-term changes but doesn’t change the constitution. What we need is a constitutional convention, which doesn’t happen until 34 states agree to it… I don’t see that happening, modern Americans can’t agree on the color of shit these days.
Like it or not, Democrats have the fundraising, and fundraising wins elections
And if you can’t see how that implies that the Democrats are just as much a part of the problem as Republicans, then I’m not sure there’s any hope for you.
They’re the best of the two evils. Still evil, but they’re not going anywhere so I’m not feeling like wasting my time tilting at windmills. See my point about incremental change.
Well keep pissing away your vote and see how that changes things…
What an absolutely condescending response. A majority of Democrats that have conceded to Republican positions is no better or worse for me than Republicans. Overall, and long term, it is a much more damaging position for the Democrats to cede civil rights positions.
Isn’t calling democrats "the other Nazi party* and the like the same kind of condescending bullshit?
Again, you’re doing the republicans job for them.
Grow the fuck up.
No, that would be your party spending the last forty years working their asses off to ensure that the conditions in which fascism can arise would blanket the whole country.
The Republicans couldn’t have done in two decades as much damage to the country as Clinton did in two terms.
See that’s the problem. “Your party” vs. “Our party”
We have a two party system, by design. It’s a stupid design, but it’s the design. So as long as we are broken into “Progressives”, “Democrats” and “Republicans”, progressives and democrats are going to continue to lose and the far right will continue to move to the white because they can, there is nothing stopping them. They don’t have to cowtow to the reasoned left, they can just ignore it because they know the left will continue to fight each other and end up being fucking useless in the process.
We need to figure out how to bring Progressives and Democrats together…and calling Democrats “just as bad” isn’t going to do that at all…
Like it or not, Democrats have the fundraising, and fundraising wins elections, so maybe figure out a way to get them onboard rather than demonizing them. You need them more than they need you.
And that’s the only correct thing in your reply. Since we have that system by design, what in the world makes you think the people who designed it would ever allow you to use it to vote away their wealth and power?
Under the banner of a revolutionary socialist party that isn’t interested in asking at the ballot box for permission to stop fascism.
And if you can’t see how that implies that the Democrats are just as much a part of the problem as Republicans, then I’m not sure there’s any hope for you.
I’m just saying that short a constitution convention to change it, we have what we have and it’s never going to change because structurally it can’t change… So we work within the system to fix it, but that requires incremental change, not something people seem to embrace…
Vote the furthest left in EVERY election, and we get that incremental change. If we give up and walk away, the right wins and nothing changes.
Still won’t work… short of violent revolution, which might result in some short-term changes but doesn’t change the constitution. What we need is a constitutional convention, which doesn’t happen until 34 states agree to it… I don’t see that happening, modern Americans can’t agree on the color of shit these days.
They’re the best of the two evils. Still evil, but they’re not going anywhere so I’m not feeling like wasting my time tilting at windmills. See my point about incremental change.
Now you’re just making shit up, if you don’t want to read, don’t just make up random bullshit that you think I said.