This is not an excuse to stay home, get your asses to the polling booths this time for the love of god
I guess the millennials are the hard men (& women) now
We were molded by hard times
Every generation before you had it worse.
No shit, why do you think MAGA is speedrunning authoritarianism?
That and minority voters will become the majority voting block and overwhelmingly swing liberal.
That just isn’t true. There are plenty of dumb non-whites as there are dumb white people.
In what world do you think our country is going to overwhelming swing liberal.
I think after similarly bad situations like the great depression it could happen again, like it did then.
All i can say is, i sure hope you’re right.
You were saying?
A majority of Latinos still voted for Harris. And that was in a bad year for Democrats. I’m sick of people blaming them when it’s us white people, especially men, who mostly voted for Trump.
I’m not “blaming” anybody. The original comment said minorities will hate Trump and swing their votes blue when there are plenty of minorities who still somehow support him.
“Plenty of minorites” it’s like 3% higher than it was in 2020 my dude. Your comment came off to me like it was very flippant and deflective.
The amount of support Latinos should have for Trump is 0%. But people don’t “vote rationally”.
The original idea i was replying to was the idea that “minorities will see how bad Trump is and vote blue overwhelmingly”. The fact there was even a group called “Latinos for Trump” when he was loudly advocating for deportations shows that wasn’t the case.
There were many reasons Trump won unfortunately. I didn’t mean to come off like i was blaming minorities for Trump. But thinking “oh Trump is bad for minorities so they won’t vote for him anymore and swing blue so its ok” seems like a complete misread of the situation, and part of how Trump won both times. Stop underestimating how irrational people can be.
See my response to the other guy who said the same thing. Sure you can always find an exception to the rule, but this is an exception, not the norm.
Alright fair enough, suppose we’ll see soon enough.
Immigrants tend to lean right as they are usually more conservative.
Not in the US. Almost every immigrant group except for Vietnamese and Cuban people vote by large majorities for Democrats. That’s why the GOP manufactured the bullshit lie that Democrats bring in immigrants to vote for them.
So, is she assuming every single millennial is going to vote Democrat? I’m a Gen X, we had harder times than millennials, but as you got older, your political views, priorities, and just over all attitude about life changes… I started off liberal/democrat…but I’m finding myself identifying more and more to the Right.
Not just Millenial, but GenZ. Some early GenA are about right for voting too.
Gen X here, been progressive since long before I knew there was a term for it. All I can say is it’s about fucking time.
Also Gen X, call me jaded but I’ll believe it when I actually see young people go out and vote.
Not enough millenials and Gen Z are getting off their asses to vote. There is ZERO good reason boomers + Gen X still comprise the majority voting block.
We just lost the Wisconsin Dem governor primary to an AIPAC allied Dem because of this. Younger people need to get their collective shit together. Its their future that their inaction is fucking up.
Honestly there’s plenty of reason for boomers alone to overwhelm Gen Z and millennials at times. Reminder they make up roughly a quarter of the population still and that’s with leftover silent generation, Gen x, Millennials, Gen Z, and Gen alpha being around. Frankly with that much population disparity it makes sense that they are able to overwhelm in some regions depending on demographic factors.
Then ya throw in Gen x, more specifically generation Jones and ya end up with a bloc that is probably approaching 30-40 percent of the population.
Well that’s just how the world works. The boomers are in retirement age now and have more time to vote. That’s how voting has worked for a very long time, as frustrating as it is.
If we were a sane country we’d vote on the weekends and automatically register people.
Work, isn’t a fucking excuse when the alternative is fascism.
Thats some real pussy ass shit. How can young people en masse scream for revolution, and expect one to happen, if they’re too afraid to take a few hours off of work?
If that’s the case, we truly are hyper-fucked.
Been hearing this for the past decade now. Still awaiting that tidal wave.
Also, last Presidential election, that age group had significant swing toward MAGA so take from that what you will.
I love that we’re finally getting good progressive candidates and I only hope we’re not one election cycle too late for a free and fair election.
If at all possible, everyone who can should vote early at the election center to make sure whatever fascist plans they have in store will not interfere with your vote, especially in swing states and Dem-leaning districts. Help others vote early by giving rides or otherwise helping them get there.
Don’t depend on mail-in ballots and be concerned about election-day voting at polling places. If you have to wait until the day, go as early as possible. They can’t be everywhere the whole time so their plans will be to pick the places their interference will have the most impact.
Millennials have been able to vote for decades now don’t see it making any difference. And no Gen Z or Alpha is not going to save anything as there are people who well vote right in every age bracket.
Millennials have been able to vote for decades now don’t see it making any difference.
Turns out this generation is just as susceptible to propaganda and misinformation as every prior generation. I guess this means we can stop saying “Blame the Boomers” every time the country shits the bed?
And no Gen Z or Alpha is not going to save anything
Millennials might be the tail end of the Fuck Around generation, depending on how we wrap up the 2020s.
Gen z & α aren’t going to have the luxuries of cheap(ish) real estate, surplus fossil fuels, abundant exploitable labor and materials, or a financial sector squatting on the esophagus of international trade. We broke all the post-Cold War levers of international control. We’re very likely going to be dealing with one or two more self-inflicted pandemics, if RFK Jr has his way. And our most lucrative satraps - Korea, Japan, Saudi Arabia, Mexico, Canada - aren’t going to be in a position to prop us up if we tank the global economy again, like we did in '08, '14, and '20.
Maybe this will curb our worst impulses. Maybe Gen z won’t be as inclined to carpet bomb a Middle Eastern country or a South American coastline if we’ve long since burned ourselves out of anti-ballistic interceptors and seaworthy aircraft carriers. Or maybe they’ll reinvent fascism from first principles and just invade Ottowa because it’s easier. Idfk.
But I do think we’re far downstream of Allen Dulles doing regime change across half the world from a smoke-filled room in Langley. We’re far downstream of white flight into suburban sprawl and every middle-income family owning a fleet of SUVs and everyone having a childhood memory of vacationing in Disney World and this one weird guy becoming a billionaire because he’s the first guy in the country who thought about importing screwdrivers from China. The next generations are not going to have the raw materials to replicate what prior generations performed. They will have to behave differently by necessity.
Can’t be a candidate until you are at least 35, pretty much. Millennials are just now getting to the right amount of experience in politics and age group to run for political positions.
People don’t really start to vote until they are 40.
I mean, I’ve voted every time since I was able to. Even in primaries once I realized they were a thing and you could participate if you were independent.
What you’re forgetting is boomers are dying.
That’s really the important part.
And with them goes an entire world that was devoted to them, advertising to them, proselytizing them, indoctrinating them.
It might be hard for the world to adjust, honestly, it’s been so damn long. And the boomers that are still around think they’re going to live forever, from the small sample size I know of.
They really do act like they will live forever.
Many voters have been disillusioned. Why bother voting, if it’s just the same two brands of getiatric cunts.
What seems to be changing, as far as I can tell, is that they’re developing a sense for the power of primaries and more regional elections to shift the position of the less malignant brand.
The best indicator of success is the reaction of the Dem leadership: They weren’t as concerned about losing to the Reps as they were about this “insurrection” threatening their slow, balanced slide by actually tugging on that rope.
VOTE DEMOCRAT NO MATTER WHO
VOTE IN PERSON; NOT BY MAIL
FAILURE TO DO SO IS SURRENDER TO FASCISM AND THE END OF DEMOCRACY IN THE USA FOREVER
Vote by mail if it is an option. Those machines are rigged, Trump and Musk both admitted this before the last election. Mail in voting is infinitely harder to fuck with as there is a human, being watched by other humans, doing the count check.
As newthrowaway reminded me, hand drop off your mail in ballot.
Hand drop off your mail in ballot.
Yes. Absolutely.
This is the way
I mean, I’d love to do that but, unless you’re giving me a couple thousand bucks and a farm sitter, I’m not getting to the shithole state I’m from. Apparently I’m a fascist for living on the other side of the world despite voting for the most progressive people on the ballot.
What an annoying little dipshit you are.
Oregon only votes by mail so idk what’s going to happen here :(
VOTE DEMOCRAT NO MATTER WHO
FAILURE TO DO SO IS SURRENDER TO FASCISM AND THE END OF DEMOCRACY IN THE USA FOREVER
To me arguing to vote for the lesser evil party with such slogans sound exactly surrendering to fascism.
Vote for good candidates and good parties and if your vote doesn’t work fight and boycott the fascists. That’s how you resist fascism
You’re not wrong. But one party is actively trying to bring about fascism while the other one is just not resisting it. Why not vote for the lesser party while the DSA party gets momentum?
voting for a party is one way to give them momentum
Here’s an example. In WI, the DSA candidate lost the primary to an establishment dem. Now a dem will run against a republican, there is no DSA option anymore.
Why not at least vote dem to stop the party actively trying to bring about facism?
Why not at least vote dem to stop the party actively trying to bring about facism?
You have other non fascist options available as parties that aren’t red and blue.
Oh, so you didn’t read my comment or understand the US voting system. Cool. Maybe try to read up about it so you can talk from a place of knowledge next time.
To me arguing to vote for the lesser evil party with such slogans sound exactly surrendering to fascism.
Absolute delusional and moronic take that got us exactly where we are today.
Why don’t you take a step back, reevaluate your life choices, and rejoin us in reality where neo-liberals aren’t fascists, the fascists are fascists.
If you wanna escape the “lesser of 2 evils” shit, then you and every other young person needs to get off their lazy fucking ass and participate in the Dem primaries. Hong just lost Wisconsin because the younger generation is STILL not showing up in enough numbers to surpass boomers and Gen X.
Until then, stop putting your personal grievances in front of the lives of the millions being massacred by MAGA.
Vote for good candidates and good parties
Only option for that is the Dem primaries.
Like it or not, we exist in a 2 party system. A system that, when it comes to the general election, forces us to choose the lesser of 2 evils. Your grievances with that system doesn’t make that system disappear. Its still there, like it or not, and your inaction and/or wrong actions have dire consequences.
and if your vote doesn’t work fight and boycott the fascists. That’s how you resist fascism
I’ve had enough of these chicken-hawk “leftists” who scream for revolution but sure as fuck would never fight in one.
If your ass is refusing to go to the polls to fight fascism, why the fuck should anyone trust you’d pick up a rifle and fight a revolution?
Absolute delusional and moronic take that got us exactly where we are today.
The red and blue party are cycling in power, if there’s anything that got us here is not doing enough to challenge this system.
Why don’t you take a step back, reevaluate your life choices, and rejoin us in reality where neo-liberals aren’t fascists, the fascists are fascists.
Supporting a genocide perpetrated by a racist far-right government it among other things such as spending a trillion in war and spying people with the most dystopian mass surveillance network humanity has ever seen to me scream fascism. If it’s not fascism it’s as much as bad and something we should oppose unless we seek to destroy the world.
If you wanna escape the “lesser of 2 evils” shit, then you and every other young person needs to get off their lazy fucking ass and participate in the Dem primaries. Hong just lost Wisconsin because the younger generation is STILL not showing up in enough numbers to surpass boomers and Gen X.
If you want criminal scum to stop from being elected, encouraging people to vote for them and for their party it’s not how you bring up a change. Younger generations are being brainwashed by the government as much as boomers and every other person.
Until then, stop putting your personal grievances in front of the lives of the millions being massacred by MAGA.
The US government, red and blue administrations cycling in power, has massacred people around the world for decades.
Like it or not, we exist in a 2 party system. A system that, when it comes to the general election, forces us to choose the lesser of 2 evils. Your grievances with that system doesn’t make that system disappear. Its still there, like it or not, and your inaction and/or wrong actions have dire consequences.
Sound like you “need to get off your lazy fucking ass” and try to change this corrupted system for good.
I’ve had enough of these chicken-hawk “leftists” who scream for revolution but sure as fuck would never fight in one. If your ass is refusing to go to the polls to fight fascism, why the fuck should anyone trust you’d pick up a rifle and fight a revolution?
The US government is supporting a genocide where kids are being murdered daily, what are you doing to make it stop HazardousBanjo?
The red and blue party are cycling in power, if there’s anything that got us here is not doing enough to challenge this system.
The ONLY viable way of destroying the two party system is to support the pro-democracy progressive movement within the Democratic party. That means keeping Dems in power. Even if its just enough to keep the fascists at bay to prevent them from destroying democracy entirely.
I.E. the lesser of 2 evils.
So here we are back at vote for Dems, no matter who, or surrender to fascism. That is your only choice.
Supporting a genocide perpetrated by a racist far-right government it among other things such as spending a trillion in war and spying people with the most dystopian mass surveillance network humanity has ever seen to me scream fascism. If it’s not fascism it’s as much as bad and something we should oppose unless we seek to destroy the world.
And which party is spearheading all of it? It ain’t the Dems.
If you want criminal scum to stop from being elected, encouraging people to vote for them and for their party it’s not how you bring up a change.
Are you seriously pointing to the Dems as the “criminal scum”?
Putting both parties in context, equating them both as criminal scum is like comparing a baby with cancer to a gorilla who can’t cum unless he’s ripping the head off of babies.
This “both sides” horseshit isn’t even just delusional at this point. It is entirely divorced from reality.
Younger generations are being brainwashed by the government as much as boomers and every other person.
Younger people trend progressive. Socialism is the leading ideology of younger people.
The only thing brainwashing young people are dumb fucks telling them they shouldn’t vote for the only viable party that isn’t fascist, in a system where lack of action favors the fascists.
The US government, red and blue administrations cycling in power, has massacred people around the world for decades.
My dude, open your eyes to the now. Both sides are objectively NOT the same in degree of genocide, crime and suppression of the American working class. It is FUCKING DIVORCED FROM REALITY to make that claim.
And that’s not even getting into the fact that, again, between the 2 parties, only 1 has a viable progressive wing.
Sound like you “need to get off your lazy fucking ass” and try to change this corrupted system for good.
I actually am. I’m voting for the only viable party that can change the corrupted system and keep the fascists at bay.
Sounds like you’re coping over how fucking lame, ineffective and moronic your stance is.
The US government is supporting a genocide where kids are being murdered daily, what are you doing to make it stop HazardousBanjo?
Voting against the fascists who took the Palestinian genocide and rose it a genocide against Hispanic Americans, against LGBTQ+ Americans, against the Lebanese, against the Iranians, against the Cubans, etc.
What are you doing to stop these genocides? I know the answer is “jack shit”, but I’ll entertain the dumbass question
The ONLY viable way of destroying the two party system is to support the pro-democracy progressive movement within the Democratic party.
You do not destroy the two party system by keep supporting it.
So here we are back at vote for Dems, no matter who, or surrender to fascism. That is your only choice.
To me it sound like you have already surrendered to fascism
And which party is spearheading all of it? It ain’t the Dems.
both of them
Are you seriously pointing to the Dems as the “criminal scum”?
I am, the previous democratic administration supported and fueled a genocide where thousand of innocent kids got murdered. They didn’t simply close an eye on it, they actively supported it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Israel_in_the_Gaza_war
This “both sides” horseshit isn’t even just delusional at this point. It is entirely divorced from reality.
The reality is that as time goes USA is climbing the chart to become the worst evil empire in history, each decade they start a new war where thousand of innocent people get murdered. Red and blue administrations one after another the war machine never stop but get boosted and replenished to start another conflict.
Younger people trend progressive. Socialism is the leading ideology of younger people.
Hopefully they do but sadly many of them are brainwashed by propaganda, US democratic party is as much as progressive as some right wing parties are in europe.
My dude, open your eyes to the now. Both sides are objectively NOT the same in degree of genocide,
Dude both red and blue latest administrations literally supported and fueled the genocide providing israel any sort of help. There aren’t degrees of genocide, if you support the murder of innocent children you are scum on every degree.
I actually am. I’m voting for the only viable party that can change the corrupted system and keep the fascists at bay.
Fascists already rule US. The previous US government knew trump was a pedophile and didn’t do shit about it.
Won’t matter if Trump prevents all future elections (like he LITERALLY promised during his last campaign).
is it really only millennials? :(
We’re the last smart generation.
You’re hanging out with the wrong young people!
I work at a college and stand by what I said. Having said that, older generations and systems have failed them, but the results are clear.
Maybe not smart but definitely threaded a needle of a number of societal devolutions. I’m hopeful that progressive mindsets toward helping the majority as opposed to the minority become the norm.
They are also reshaping the internet by not using twitter
We’ve heard this same lie from them every election for decades. Democrats are unifying against the working class
