What? FF with a bunch of Jira tabs, Outlook, Teams, Excel, Miro, Spotify, and I am at 100% of 16 gigs. Not even saying anything about running a 8gig VM from time to time
Teams, Firefox, and Outlook and that’s most of my Windows work PC RAM gone. Have to close out of my dev work whenever a meeting is afoot because the calls fucking hammer this thing.
Windows doesn’t struggle with 16GB at all unless you’re doing something that obviously needs as much memory as you can give it, like anything made by Adobe.
For 9/10 users 16GB is plenty, even with common apps that hoard it like it’s some sort of hard drug (Chrome).
I’m sitting at 22 gigs used with a browser, teams, and an IDE. The browser is taking about 1.6, the IDE as well. Teams is taking 2. Then there’s a bunch of little web views and other BS that windows has spawned gobbling up it all.
Ah yes, the same crap about what’s being “used” without the entire system context being considered. Because as we all know, simple numbers tell the entire story all by themselves.
The system and apps will use what’s available if you have it. That’s what you want, unused RAM is wasted RAM, and there is zero reason not to use resources that are readily available. The system automatically caches and preloads things like files and applications you tend to use at certain times of the day so they load faster when you do access them. This is used memory, but it is also readily available for literally anything else.
All of those apps know you have plenty more memory readily available if they want it, so they will fill to use whatever they want and won’t attempt to do more than basic memory management. Once the active resource usage fills, both apps and the system itself will begin more aggressive memory management. Until then, there’s no reason to.
Remove RAM until you have 16GB, run those exact same things and you will almost certainly see under 16GB of usage.
Teams is the most performance inefficient shit I’ve ever been forced to use.
We use both Zoom and Teams for meeting with partners. On my piece of shit work laptop, I have no problem with Zoom. Teams on the other hand will randomly cut my audio, lag my cursor, or cause peripherals to stop working when I’m in a meeting. I simply can’t fathom how it’s as bad as it is.
When it’s being used, stuff gets slower - so yes, I technically use it as an indicator, by noticing that my machine is slow because it’s out of free ram
What? FF with a bunch of Jira tabs, Outlook, Teams, Excel, Miro, Spotify, and I am at 100% of 16 gigs. Not even saying anything about running a 8gig VM from time to time
Teams, Firefox, and Outlook and that’s most of my Windows work PC RAM gone. Have to close out of my dev work whenever a meeting is afoot because the calls fucking hammer this thing.
That’s because Teams is a piece of shit, not because 16GB isn’t enough normally.
16gb will go far on MacOS and any Linux distro you throw at it. Windows 11 will struggle.
Windows doesn’t struggle with 16GB at all unless you’re doing something that obviously needs as much memory as you can give it, like anything made by Adobe.
For 9/10 users 16GB is plenty, even with common apps that hoard it like it’s some sort of hard drug (Chrome).
I’m sitting at 22 gigs used with a browser, teams, and an IDE. The browser is taking about 1.6, the IDE as well. Teams is taking 2. Then there’s a bunch of little web views and other BS that windows has spawned gobbling up it all.
Ah yes, the same crap about what’s being “used” without the entire system context being considered. Because as we all know, simple numbers tell the entire story all by themselves.
The system and apps will use what’s available if you have it. That’s what you want, unused RAM is wasted RAM, and there is zero reason not to use resources that are readily available. The system automatically caches and preloads things like files and applications you tend to use at certain times of the day so they load faster when you do access them. This is used memory, but it is also readily available for literally anything else.
All of those apps know you have plenty more memory readily available if they want it, so they will fill to use whatever they want and won’t attempt to do more than basic memory management. Once the active resource usage fills, both apps and the system itself will begin more aggressive memory management. Until then, there’s no reason to.
Remove RAM until you have 16GB, run those exact same things and you will almost certainly see under 16GB of usage.
Teams is the most performance inefficient shit I’ve ever been forced to use.
We use both Zoom and Teams for meeting with partners. On my piece of shit work laptop, I have no problem with Zoom. Teams on the other hand will randomly cut my audio, lag my cursor, or cause peripherals to stop working when I’m in a meeting. I simply can’t fathom how it’s as bad as it is.
Discord, spotify, Firefox and minecraft (with Mods) is enough to bring down my 16 gbs
How much is your page being used? That’s a more real indicator. You should want all of your ram to be used.
When it’s being used, stuff gets slower - so yes, I technically use it as an indicator, by noticing that my machine is slow because it’s out of free ram
No. No I can play games on Linux without capping my 16.
Edit: yes I checked page file use, dip-ass. Not counting GPU ram.