"The men and women of ICE are doing a GREAT job, one that has to be done," the president wrote on Truth Social days after two separate ICE-involved shootings
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He’s trying to spark protests…That’s the whole point of ICE. To piss americans off to the point that they rise up so he can declare “an insurrection” and suspend elections or whatever other bullshit he’s planning…
it’s literally the game plan, and like idiots, we’re going to play right into it.
Thank you for saying that. Occam’s razor. What’s more likely.
A) He’s a master manipulator that constructed a timeline of failure 70 years long for the sole purpose of destabilizing the US in order to declare himself emperor
B) He’s a pudding brained idiot, who is desperate to hold onto any shred of power he can to avoid going to jail for kid fucking.
C) He’s a tool being used by political operatives who are feeding him a narrative to manipulate his actions.
He doesn’t give a shit about immigration, elections, Iranian nuclear weapons, etc… he only cares about getting more money, and Stephen Miller is using that to advance his own agenda, which he has sold to trump as a way to get even richer.
It doesnt take a brilliant tactician to use abuse baiting to provoke a retaliation from the abused to justify ramping up violence against the abused. Even the most pudding brained inbred moron can do that.
What Trump is doing is narcissistic abuse baiting. Keep abusing and harassing until the abused cant take it any more and snaps, reacting violently, and then claiming that the abuser is actually the victim. They’re baiting for the manufactured consent to crack down and take hostile control.
In the meantime, as they murder people, abduct people, utilize for-profit concentration camps in which most were not convicted of a crime, and further remove the rights we are supposed to have.
What should be done in the meantime? Are you proposing nothing be done? Because if any action is taken against them, then they would be justified to do what they are already doing?
Do everything you can to help the people affected by the policies that isn’t direct violent confrontation. Direct confrontation will be used as an excuse to crack down harder. Warn others of ICE presence, help people get out of an area quickly and safely, defend people being attacked, record the interactions, never be the aggressor against ICE. Its tragic but Alex Pretti and Nicole Goode have become rallying symbols and examples of the awful behavior of ICE. Yes there is a dedicated online effort to smear them, and there are still people countering the messaging. If you find that you’re in a position where simple sabotage is possible, do it.
Make peace with the fact that helping others is a dangerous proposition, and only you can decide what you are capable of doing and how much you’re willing to risk.
I’m pretty sure we should defend our country from the machinations of fascist christian white nationalists like the Heritage Foundation at all cost. Not just play dead and hope they get bored.
and like idiots, we’re going to play right into it.
As a queer person in Minneapolis, my only option is to stand up and confront these fascists. Acting may lead to my death, but not acting guarantees lifelong oppression. Not just for me, but my friends, family, and neighbors.
If protesting leads to increased violence and oppression against us, the answer is not to shrink and hide, but to resist harder. I will not be surprised when a person or people kill ICE agents at a raid.
One thing I’ve learned since 2016 is that no amount of evil bullshit in the U.S. is impossible. We don’t have laws. We barely have a judicial system in fact I would say it’s basically defunct too.
My impression is that there were much bigger protests during his fist term. ICE has shown the public that protesters are being killed. My guess is that that’s the point.
There have been much bigger distributed protests in the USA since the start of Trump’s second term, including the biggest in US history. You just have to count protests happening on the same day, for the same reasons, with the same goals in different cities.
He’s trying to spark protests…That’s the whole point of ICE. To piss americans off to the point that they rise up so he can declare “an insurrection” and suspend elections or whatever other bullshit he’s planning…
it’s literally the game plan, and like idiots, we’re going to play right into it.
Not everything is a false flag operation.
We cannot allow violence, human rights abuses, and the erosion of out rights & laws for fear that what is already happening might continue to happen.
We must take action to stop these abuses. We can disagree on which actions to take, but any action against fascism is better then none.
Thank you for saying that. Occam’s razor. What’s more likely.
A) He’s a master manipulator that constructed a timeline of failure 70 years long for the sole purpose of destabilizing the US in order to declare himself emperor
B) He’s a pudding brained idiot, who is desperate to hold onto any shred of power he can to avoid going to jail for kid fucking.
C) He’s a tool being used by political operatives who are feeding him a narrative to manipulate his actions.
He doesn’t give a shit about immigration, elections, Iranian nuclear weapons, etc… he only cares about getting more money, and Stephen Miller is using that to advance his own agenda, which he has sold to trump as a way to get even richer.
TBH, I think that falls under B, because if he didn’t have mashed potatoes for brains, he wouldn’t be so easily manipulated.
I’d like to add blackmail to that. He’s all over the Epstein files, clearly someone has a video of him fucking a chil.
he gives a shit about immigration in so far as he genuinely hates brown and black people. he doesn’t care about white people immigrating.
Not everything as a conspiracy
You’re right, it’s not a conspiracy. A conspiracy is a secret plan… Project 2025 was not a secret plan.
While true, it doesn’t apply in this case. Trump has always been a political puppet. They used Reagan the same way.
It doesnt take a brilliant tactician to use abuse baiting to provoke a retaliation from the abused to justify ramping up violence against the abused. Even the most pudding brained inbred moron can do that.
That’s not what a false flag operation is.
What Trump is doing is narcissistic abuse baiting. Keep abusing and harassing until the abused cant take it any more and snaps, reacting violently, and then claiming that the abuser is actually the victim. They’re baiting for the manufactured consent to crack down and take hostile control.
In the meantime, as they murder people, abduct people, utilize for-profit concentration camps in which most were not convicted of a crime, and further remove the rights we are supposed to have.
What should be done in the meantime? Are you proposing nothing be done? Because if any action is taken against them, then they would be justified to do what they are already doing?
Do everything you can to help the people affected by the policies that isn’t direct violent confrontation. Direct confrontation will be used as an excuse to crack down harder. Warn others of ICE presence, help people get out of an area quickly and safely, defend people being attacked, record the interactions, never be the aggressor against ICE. Its tragic but Alex Pretti and Nicole Goode have become rallying symbols and examples of the awful behavior of ICE. Yes there is a dedicated online effort to smear them, and there are still people countering the messaging. If you find that you’re in a position where simple sabotage is possible, do it.
Make peace with the fact that helping others is a dangerous proposition, and only you can decide what you are capable of doing and how much you’re willing to risk.
Thank you. This is a much more appropriate response.
Advocate for action and self defense against fascism.
Uderstand, you may have allies that have different methodologies, but you are still allies.
If helping others is dangerous, then it is better to live in constant danger than to live peacefully.
I’m pretty sure this is actually in project2025…
I’m pretty sure we should defend our country from the machinations of fascist christian white nationalists like the Heritage Foundation at all cost. Not just play dead and hope they get bored.
The alternative is to … what? Just let ICE murder and kidnap our neighbors?
We need to make it backfire for them.
https://www.grassrootsthinking.com/nonviolence-is-violence-too-somebodys-gotta-die/
As a queer person in Minneapolis, my only option is to stand up and confront these fascists. Acting may lead to my death, but not acting guarantees lifelong oppression. Not just for me, but my friends, family, and neighbors.
If protesting leads to increased violence and oppression against us, the answer is not to shrink and hide, but to resist harder. I will not be surprised when a person or people kill ICE agents at a raid.
He literally can’t suspend elections.
The physics of the situation don’t support it.
The laws are against him, the size of the country is against him, the total manpower available to enforce a suspension is against him.
The US held state run elections during the literal civil war.
We aren’t in a civil war. He will try everything he can to manipulate elections but cancelling them is utterly impossible.
One thing I’ve learned since 2016 is that no amount of evil bullshit in the U.S. is impossible. We don’t have laws. We barely have a judicial system in fact I would say it’s basically defunct too.
My impression is that there were much bigger protests during his fist term. ICE has shown the public that protesters are being killed. My guess is that that’s the point.
There have been much bigger distributed protests in the USA since the start of Trump’s second term, including the biggest in US history. You just have to count protests happening on the same day, for the same reasons, with the same goals in different cities.
Bigger protests yes…more violent, no.