well that doesn’t sound as good, i never even considered this to be a possibility, but thinking about it logically makes sense

:( all of this is just awful, screw AI for real 😭

As opposed to what? Having the government control all the businesses creates horrible incentives. Politicians aren’t exactly known for their honesty and often skew metrics in their favor. Plus we need redundant organizations practicing and exposing the the populace to democracy – that’s how you successfully create change: You build and empower parallel institutions. We need private organizations like cooperatives, unions, NGOs, and non-profits participating in society and showing people the actual mechanisms that will build a better world.

Pluralism is the only realistic way forward. Even if I’d like to bias the system against traditional corporations in favor of more democratic institutions, they’re already here. We have to provide a transition path with lots of little gradual steps away from centralized authoritarian corporate power towards democratic mechanisms and shared power. At the very least we have to make the transition gradual enough not to create mass chaos that will hurt innocent people.

I’ll stop mincing words: Lemmy has a communist problem. There are a bunch of people who advocate for violent revolution with no regard for who’ll do the fighting and dying. Worse, they’re intolerant of any society that isn’t the exact utopia they pretend is possible – that totally won’t just replace one batch of elites with another. I hope that’s not what you’re advocating, but you’re using the language.

I also want to be clear that I’m not aiming to put down my radical flank. People willing to do violence empower people preferring peace, they tell the people in power that they can transition the peaceful way or the any means necessary way. I prefer peace myself, but if people want to install a democracy by any means necessary, I can’t really blame them. But if that’s your stance, be clear about what’s realistic and reasonable – and what will just end up hurting the people you think you defend.

Sure, but it’s something we can change from the bottom up. Whether in private organizations or single small-towns, we can and should start entrenching democracy and establishing norms and standards. Start with the mechanisms required for electoral democracy: Ranked Voting, Lottery Option, Recall Mechanism, Randomized Districting. Then, combat external forces by tax political donations and tax political advertising – even if the Supreme Court says we can’t ban political donations, it’d be very hard try justify a taxation exemption with breaking the whole economy. Move on to public information campaigns that inform citizens about democratic mechanisms. Start creating incentives and advantages for democratically run organizations and cooperation with other democracies.

There is a path to change, and we have a responsibility - to ourselves, our peers, and those who come after us - to pursue a more democratic society.

Could also track down the CEO, trap them in their own dwellings, and set them on fire.

That requires slightly more work though

I was expecting https://share.google/nvBs6e2HKv1muF8ZK

Guns are too personal. It’s what cocktails made from garbage are for.

If only.

I think in this case they are actually using eminent domain for it.

Basically they are reaching out to families, asking for permission, and then when denied that permission going through the state/town and getting permission that way.

The easement taking up half their land was the “compromise” that the utility company gave them, because they already had a notice/permission from the town/state on the entire property. They were going to have the line no matter what, it was whether the current owners wanting to have part of the property, or none of the property. its pretty sickening.

They need to sue right away, eminent domain without compensation is a violation of the Fifth Amendment.

wait guys, if you burn the data centers down then they’ll hire guards and ram will be even more expensive 😭

You had me typing, “THATS THE JOKE,” for a moment there. Well done.

they did this with foxconn or a similar company during trumps 1s term, the local govt "blighted the homes’ to force them to leave.

It’s wrong to steal people’s houses and to pollute the place they live, no matter who they voted for.

But I’ll be damned if I shed a single tear if these people happily voted in the regime which brazenly supports stealing people’s houses and polluting where they live.

Straight-up. I really don’t care who these people voted for. If they’re pissed that datacenters are stealing their family home, that’s actually a perfect opportunity to win right-wing votes that doesn’t compromise values. At the minimum, It’s an opportunity to fight back against big tech and data centers. Punishing them for who they presumably voted for is deranged on multiple levels, but unfortunately normalized among liberals.

Liberals will insist on adopting centrist and right wing policies in the hope of winning over jetski dads in the suburbs. They’ll do anything they can to win over these voters. They do it every election. It leads to a cynicism among voters that nothing can ever change for the better (and they’re fucking right). So people stay home or vote for someone else. The jetski dads predictably vote for the most fascist politician possible, because that’s what they want. They don’t want fascism lite, they want fascism done right. The centrist eats shit and blames the left (who often work tirelessly to elect their dumbass as a harm reduction measure, but whatever).

Then, when the Republican wins and starts doing Republican shit, liberals offer only condascending quips about a process that never works out for people. They insist that suffering is payment to them from the poorest and least educated people in the USA for not playing their little game correctly. And in the same fucking breath, they’ll propose more dead-end centrist garbage to the same jetski dads as last time.

Stop conceding to the right. Run on populist left policies that improve the material lives of everyone, and you’ll naturally win over voters. That includes saving rural Georgian families from data centers even if they don’t like you or vote for you. If you do enough for them you will eventually win them over. Fighting data centers is a net win for environmentalism and labor.

Having a lack of compassion towards someone who voted for this getting their face eaten by leopards is not the same as approval of what’s happening. Are you able to discern the difference?

everything is “deranged” in this country, to be frank

On a federal basis, you are likely correct. On a local basis, I highly disagree. Many politicians in areas that are left-leaning are putting in place data center bans. Local elections matter.

You don’t believe in evil even though you shared a planet with Epstein? That my friend is folly and I highly recommend you set a new definition of evil for yourself with his and his co-conspirators’ names.