Devil weed, everyone involved should be killed and the research burned.
That’s why they are finding out about this now and not 1950. Witch hunts are so great, everyone benefits (not).
Gettingbhigh is very important to me, and I stand by my statement.
Publically. Bonfire style. In the middle of city square.
Instructions unclear, now someone’s hosting an execution-themed costume party downtown while blasting Childish Gambino Bonfire mashups
Dunno. Sounds they were clear enough
I’m… actually OK with this
I’m going to run with a little cynicism.
I live somewhere where cannabis is not legal. There’s pressure, sure, but there’s resistance too.
One of the factors that helped it legalized in western countries like Canada and the US is the notion of health. Pain relief. Treatment for some chronic illnesses.
That’s cool. But imagine a pharmaceutical company isolates those health things.
No need to legalized cannabis anymore.
This stuff supports the anti-lefalisation movement by taking the benefits from it.
Damned if we want to use if recreationally.
What do you think happened to cocaine and heroine? Hell, alcohol some places.
What happened to them? I really don’t know the history behind these hard drugs.
They started as medicines and were concentrated, distilled, and extracted to the point where the medicine it became was deadlier than the cure it provided.
Coca leaves are still consumed medicinally/recreationally in some parts of south america.
Poppy seeds have a whole history of being abused and weaponized through the silk road.
Marijuana has faced a similar story, though without the deaths. This hasn’t stopped governments around the world from conflating the deaths caused by other things with the use of medicines that in no way cause death.
Hey, that’s cool! This seems promising for enabling people dealing with chronic pain to have more options for ways to control pain without needing to potentially compromise mental function when they need it. Now to scroll through the comment section to see everyone’s completely reasonable and measured takes.
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Not* sure how that’s possible because the high is what relieves the pain for me. Not thinking about pain when I’m stoned off my ass.
We’d just have to try it and find out, I guess.
Surely couldn’t hurt, especially if it doesn’t affect your tolerance for THC. Cause I really need to take a tolerance break, but I need pain relief and sleep more.
What about CBD-based sleep aid gummies?
Unfortunately I’ve been there, done that. I feel nothing from CBD whatsoever. No pain relief, no appetite, no sleep. Feels like eating a snack
Nope, I need my THC, so it’ll be interesting to see how this discovery plays out. Maybe I can finally get the relief I need without worrying about needing t-breaks.
Yeah unfortunately I’m the same way. Have tried several CBD things and not one of them do anything for me unless I go max dose, and even then it’s an incredibly mild effect. THC takes nearly nothing though, 15mg is enough for a very strong high. I have friends where the complete opposite is true and I would love to trade them.
Is it a noose made of hemp
Yall are fuckin wierd lol. I absolutely love cannabis, both recreationally and medically. But if there’s an additional choice to isolate the pain relief aspect without the psychoactive effects of THC, that would be amazing as well. It’s not an either/or choice - there are absolutely use cases for both. Regardless, I’m pretty skeptical that terpenes are any more useful for pain control than essential oils are.
This industry relies on innuendo and bots to fill comments on Reddit, anything but actual clinical trials with placebo controls. Same thing with terpene sleep aids.
Thing is, this is strain that’s gonna be legalized if any. So any fun use would still be illegal.
The states in the US that have already legalized weed are not going to let go of that tax revenue anytime soon.
If I’m not wrong, essential oils are rich in terpenes and maybe that’s what makes them useful as a pain treatment.
Essential oils are not useful as pain treatment.
I have friends that use them and disagree.
You have friends that have made a therapeutic ritual out of using essential oils which helps them only because the placebo effect can be very powerful for pain. Literally anything could stand in for the essential oils. Swap their oil vials out with convincing fakes and they’ll never know the difference because it’s the ritual of smelling and/or applying the oils that’s helping them, not any real physical mechanism of the compounds in the oils interacting with their biology.
This is so stupid. Just more pointless research to make you look the wrong way. Like Cannabis is this miracle plant that could offer us things we didn’t have access to before.
I love Cannabis, she has been one of my best friends for over 25 years but let’s not kid ourselves. These terpenes aren’t unique to Cannabis, you shouldn’t be getting them from Cannabis, you should be getting them from your food.
Unfortunately the food you are sold is dead and empty. Not only are processed foods stripped of all you actually need to support a healthy body, the fruits and veggies you buy are mostly dead strains that are grown in dead soil. It’s cheaper upfront, but then you have to pay for it in supplements, taxes and hospital bills.
Geraniol: Citronella, rose, lemongrass
Linalool: Lavender, mints, citrus, coriander, basil
Beta-caryophyllene: Black pepper, rosemary, cloves, hops
Alpha-humulene: Sage, hops, ginseng, ginger, mints
Terpenes are the key. Spice up your lives.
Slam it to the left if you’re havin’ a good time, shake it to the right If ya know that you feel fine
Chicas to the front! Ha! Ha!
Man, I always thought that line was a reference to 90’s sci fi show Space above and beyond…
Of course they did, god forbid anyone should have any fun. Fucking puritans.
Ok, but now imagine being in chronic pain and wanting relief without getting high?
Pharma company extracting novel compounds to sell? Ya look at the insulin fiasco?
I mean, sure, but that wasn’t what they were flippant about
That’ll be $10,000
Because god forbid anyone ever feel a high that doesnt benefit corporate cartels.
I mean, i don’t want to feel high while i try to relieve some pain yk
ITT: a lot of people who don’t suffer from chronic pain.
Pass.
Call me when they develop weed without pain relief that only gets you high as giraffe balls.
Call me when they invent weed that makes me feel like I’m wearing grade 7 nipple clamps
Huh…I’ve always heard “giraffe pussy.” Lol I never thought about it the other way.
It takes 2 giraffes.
I hate the pain relief/numbing aspect of some strains, it makes me get comfortable in positions that don’t make me feel bad til the nexy day and then I feel bad for a week
Call me when they develop weed that gives all the pain and none of the relief!
Let’s spice things up, russian roulette with weed instead of bullets.
so they have these gummy bears with a shitton of capsaican, like 9,000,000 scovilles or something. you’re supposed to chew them for 5 minutes, and they say it’s like getting maced in the mouth. maybe a 6/10 of pain or something, it’s intense but it’s over fast. also you can make it easier with milk, that’d probably drop it down to a 4/10 or something. But 5 minutes and it’s over.
if you want a pain russian roulette, use those.
Ngl that just sounds like my normal weed for years. Originally took it for foot pain after work and it did nothing, but I was high as fuck and didn’t care that much
that’s kind of how it works though. The first time i took weed I was doing 12 hour shifts in kitchen work, and i noted how it didn’t remove the pain, it just made me stop careing about it.
Definitely still couldn’t walk properly because of pain, seems a bit pointless, but that’s just me
TBF foot/leg pain to a 20 something, is not the same as chronic pain due to an injury, so i’m not discounting you, just voicing my experience.
also, i was smoking 'mersh not the medical grade stuff, so…
My dad his disautonomia so he has to smoke weed in order to cope with the pain from his nervous system.
He’d rather not use pain killers aka morphine aka opiates for risk of getting addicted to those.
Hopefully this compound will help his pain tolerance without giving him the high
They made it suck.
They already did this a long time ago, with Marinol, a course of which costed like 20k, while a 50 dollar baggie of weed would better do the job.
I love as this news spread, all the “but i need it for my pain/depression/etc/etc!, its the only thing that helps!” types are now just straight up basically saying they don’t give a fuck about anything it does but the high.
I knew this was gonna happen.
Just like I know the type of responses I’m gonna get from the outed potheads and addicts.
Potheads and addicts? Holy shit, is it still 1990 and you’ve got some weird fucking prejudice against how other people choose to spend their time or how they medicate themselves? Oh boy…
Just like I know the type of responses I’m gonna get
You invite the circus when you put the clown mask on.
Potheads and addicts? Holy shit, is it still 1990 and you’ve got some weird fucking prejudice against how other people choose to spend their time or how they medicate themselves? Oh boy…
I dont care what you do in your own home.
But potheads, like vegans, cant just contain it to their own home and shut up about it. They gotta make sure everyone, everywhere, in every fucking conversation, knows about what they do.
And for the longest time, they all tried to hide behind pot being the magical medicine that cured all woes, and now we have science actually isolating beneficial components without hte high, and the overwhelming response is “NO, I DONT WANT THE BENEFICIAL EFFECTS, I WANT THE HIGH”, which is exactly what addicts would say.
lmao vegans and pot heads, oh no! ur a funny one
A lot of these comments are jokes, and poke at our for profit healthcare in the states.
vegans AND potheads, oh man, best joke in here is yours tho
You are shadowboxing lol. I see orders of magnitude more people complaining about vegans with little to no prompting than I see any vegans saying they are vegan.
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What kind of naïve person makes grandiose claims of others, while also unfairly aggregating them to the grouping of your own subjective, unflattering, and inaccurate images of them? You’re basically inventing these people, potheads and vegan, to make a dumb point about how some people like to talk about their personal choices a lot. Whoopty doo, you dweeb.
You know what’s funny? Aside from the fact that I’m mentioning it now, I consume a grotesque volume of cannabis. Truly grotesque, I promise more than whatever you’re thinking. I don’t bring it up, though, ever. Why? Because I’m an actual human being, as opposed to whatever fantasy you’ve got going on up there.
And for the longest time, they all tried to hide behind pot being the magical medicine that cured all woes, and now we have science actually isolating beneficial components without hte high, and the overwhelming response is “NO, I DONT WANT THE BENEFICIAL EFFECTS, I WANT THE HIGH”, which is exactly what addicts would say.
No it’s not. Please, for the love of god, do good research and get that stuff. That’s great for children, people who don’t want to be high, and people who can’t be high (e.g., on the clock) but still need the medicine.
I still want to get high, though. There’s nothing wrong with that. The issue is with you, if you have a problem with that.
sure buddy.
Well, at least your username checks out…
Sure buddy.
Wow…
You are the one who brought up vegens in a conversation about pot. But sure, keep telling that yourself.
Sure buddy.
I bet you’re a riot at parties, huh.
If you’re going to go for the personal attack, could you at least be entertaining with it? This is something a 14 year old would regurgitate 30 years ago.
Oh sorry, I thought I’d try for something a moron would understand. I didn’t want to use too many big words and confuse you.
Next time try lowering the bar to something a moron can actually produce instead of worrying about other people 👍
So you want me to reduce my not-so-complex insult to something a moron would produce so you can think you’re winning an arguing with a moron?
Fuck, you’re smart hey.
Never met someone smoking weed who acts like a militant vegan about it.
Yeah… Maybe they like getting high too. What’s the problem? The only issue I see with cannabis is that people smoke it.
There are tons of issues with cannabis. It severely diminishes your ability to solve problems or concentrate on complex tasks over a period of time. I’m not in favor of people casually being drunk every day, and therefore I am not in favor of people casually smoking weed every day.
If we want people to be able to get the medical benefits of cannabinoids, like anti-emetics, pain relief, appetite, anti-psychotics et.c. we need to research their mechanism of action and synergy between each other. People who are sick do not necessarily also want to be high, especially if you have to take your medication over an extended period of time.
So cannabis and alcohol bad, caffeine fine?
Caffeine and nicotine are problematic for various reasons, but they are not significantly mind-altering. Because of that, chronic use of caffeine and nicotine is not problematic with regard to being able to perform most tasks.
Rage bait.
Used one without the high. Worked beautifully. Too expensive in the long run. But really appreciated it. Dont want the high at all. It had no side effects. Just gentle pain relief. Bliss.
@Timonesaysno I love the high from cannabis, but that doesn’t mean that I want it necessarily in all situations. Like for instance, on Friday night I randomly got nauseous, and the only thing I had was my THC vape. Well, I didn’t care, because we were having fun anyway, I may not have been able to get away with that is easily outside of a chill situation, such as a softball game, which is where I was last night.
If I’m in chronic pain then I’m going to want to be high too. Nothing wrong with being high in your own house.
-I don’t even like weed. The high just feels like taking benedryl to me.
It would be better to have both as an option.
But like, the buzz cures pain too. Or is no one else dealing with depression?
Depression isn’t real, now back to rowing your oar, slave.
And then it gets patented and costs $10,000 a dose.
Currently happening with kratom and psylocibin as well.
Yeah, the most legit meds come from a gas station.
I don’t think you know what you’re talking about. There are multiple patents pending on modified kratom alkaloids.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuterated_mitragynine?wprov=sfla1
I’ve read about others but that was the first one I came across in development.
Psilocin pro-drugs are another category with multiple patents pending, Mindset Pharma holding a few.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSP-1014?wprov=sfla1
Here is another patented by Reunion Neuroscience.
