• 9point6@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    I wonder if there was ever a “rent” button next to the “buy” button for when these movies were sold

    It feels like it should be pretty black and white to get a legal pushback for this, at least in countries with consumer protections

  • TommySoda@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    It was a pricing issue when I was 12 and didn’t have a job. It’s a service issue when I’m almost 30 and I want to buy it but you won’t let me or you make it more complicated than piracy.

    With video games I haven’t pirated a game in years because Steam and GOG make it (relatively) painless and most of the issues that arise are not even Steam’s fault and are usually the big developers delisting games or ending support.

    Movies and shows? I’d have to do research to figure out who currently has the rights to the media and pick my streaming platform accordingly. Hell, some shows and movies series’ are split between different streaming services altogether. If I decide to watch said show on a PC they’ll lower the quality to 720p and I can’t change it. If I want to watch something on the go it’ll get blocked half the time even if I have it pre-downloaded on my phone. And if I want to “buy” it I have to figure which services are selling it and even than it will restrict how I can watch it. And now we have to worry about you removing things that we paid for from our libraries? Go fuck yourself. Even if Steam delists a game from their store you can still play it if it’s in your library.

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      I used to buy a lot of films on VHS and later on DVD.

      Then came bluray which was purposefully locked down tight so I couldn’t rip them and I couldn’t even play discs from other regions, plus the whole anti-circumvention legislation passed at the time meant that even after somebody cracked its DRM it was hard to get your hands on good tools to rip the disks.

      As by then home internet speeds were high enough, I switched to pirating that kind of content.

      Streaming came along but it was already obvious back then that the customer didn’t own the media - you couldn’t just download a non-DRM-locked video file and watch it whenever and wherever you wanted because nobody would sell that to you, they would “keep it” for you in their systems or send it DRM locked and kept control of when you could access it with some kind of “phone-home” unlocking mechanism - so I never subscribed to any streaming services.

      I have literally pirated all video content since the mid 00s.

      Meanwhile, like you, in contrast and thanks mostly to GOG, even though I can pirate my games, I just buy them instead. Steam is a bit more iffy because they have the whole “phone-home” control thing and although their DRM isn’t really tightly locked and you can easily go around it, in my view the intention is there to restrict your freedom, so I’ve only bought a handful of games on Steam (and, curiously, recently I had to turn to piracy because one of those games wouldn’t run on Linux but a pirated version of it ran just fine).

      I’m perfectly willing and capable of buying the content, but it has to be free for me to use (same as in the old days, before phone-home DRM, a Game or Movie DVD was free for me to use) and in my possession not in a “trust me this is yours (but not really as per an obscure paragraph in a Terms & Conditions agreement which is 50 pages of legalese)”.

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      Meanwhile, if I want to watch the same show/film jy “alternative ways”, I just go to stremio, search for it, and watch it. No questions asked, no geoblocks, no services to search for in them and painless overall.

      It IS a service problem because it really is harder to watch it legally.

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      19 hours ago

      This is a big reason why I have a problem with streaming services these days. With anime, it can get worse when some services only stream in Dubbed or Subbed where you want the opposite. And even with a great fiber optic internet connection the streaming sites will reduce your playback quality like mentioned above, to the point where a few times now I’ve opted to find and download the show elsewhere even though I’m subscribed.

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        Or the subs on the anime is AI generated garbage that isn’t accurately translated. I’d rather wait a few days and find a fan sub. Though that’s hard these days. Seems like even pirated copies of shows just rip from Crunchyroll anyway. Which go figure, Crunchyroll is owned by Sony last I checked.

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    21 hours ago

    Article is worth reading (use an adblocker though), but if you’re looking for a little more than a title but a little less than a new tab:

    Gabe Newell, the co-founder of Valve, explained that providing excellent service is the best method to combat piracy. He added that, “The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It’s by giving those people a service that’s better than what they’re receiving from the pirates.”

    The infamous “You wouldn’t steal a car” commercial pushed back against piracy over 20 years ago. The ad has received its fair share of criticism over the years, but please humor me as I look at it from a different angle.

    If pirating digital content is akin to stealing a car, what is selling digital content and then revoking access without offering a refund? In this hypothetical world in which physical goods work the same way as digital content, what Sony is doing is like selling someone a DVD then breaking into their house and stealing it back after a few years.

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      18 hours ago

      It’s akin to a dealership selling someone a car and then bricking it without warning because the manufacturer didn’t want the dealership selling that car anymore.

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    21 hours ago

    The corrupt dinosaurs running the government are bought and paid for.

    Simple legislation could easily give customers the right to download and keep the movie files purchased.

    Digital storefronts should allow downloading full quality files for personal use in a standard non-DRM format.

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      We’re at the end stage of literally a century of corruption in the domain of Intellectual Property.

      All that it takes is to look at how Copyright used to be 20 years, after which the works were in the Public Domain (in other words, for 20 years the public enforced an otherwise impossible right - as intellectual anything being property is not a natural thing - for somebody to have a monopoly on reproducing some intellectual creation and the quid pro quo was that after 20 years everybody had free access to it), and then over the 20th Century it kept getting extended and extended to the point that now in most countries is around 100 years after the death of the author, so in average copyright lasts about 125 years, so for example YOU WILL ALMOST NEVER be free until the day you die to access a musical work which you grew up with in your teens.

      The whole thing was a massive corrupt landgrab, only the “land” wasn’t actually physical but an artificial kind of property that would not exist otherwise, created by artificially restricting what the many could do, an which was continuously expanded by extending those restrictions to increase the breath of said “property”, mainly for the benefit of a few.

      This didn’t just happen in Copyright, by the way, things like Business Method Patents are also another corrupt expansion of intellectual property, though those haven’t spread outside the US quite as much as the “longer than a human being’s lifetime” Copyright periods.

    • YourAvgMortal@lemmy.world
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      I don’t think downloading the titles is enough. While you and me may have enough space in a spare HDD for every movie we ever purchased, my parents certainly don’t have enough space on their iPads; and even then they wouldn’t be able to watch them in their living rooms. These digital storefronts should be forced to serve the movies they sell for streaming indefinitely so people like my parents have a way to watch the content they paid for with the same simplicity they had when they bought them

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        15 hours ago

        I agree. Maybe digital rights over a film or software should allow downloading indefinitely by whichever corporation decides to own the IP.

  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    Very true. I buy shit on Steam all the time, because it’s less of a hassle than going to Fitgirl Repacks.

    Purely a matter of convenience.

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      20 hours ago

      indeed. I’ll admit I used to frequently use fitgirl and dodi repacks but dodi retired and for whatever reason i can never get fitgirls stuff to work anymore on Linux. Steam it just works.

  • CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de
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    21 hours ago

    In the early days, Netflix was the only player in streaming. Then others entered, and they couldn’t compete if everyone had the same catalogue, and they couldn’t be satisfied with making fistfuls of cash, so they enshittified.

    There was a time not too long ago I was pretty certain I’d get Netflix just as soon as I had the cash for it. Not anymore!