“No one, whether you’re trans or not, wants the federal government digging through your identifiable patient information and figuring out what they like and don’t like,” Hack said. “It’s an absolute overreach, and people are really scared.”

Asked whether Hack’s priorities were measures he could support, Platner agreed. “Yes, indeed. They most certainly do,” he said.

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    I understand that Platner can be divisive, but that aside, I seem to recall some unpopular, four-term President declaring that he welcomed that hate from his adversaries. Probably a bad idea to do the same; he might win with that kind of messaging, and winning is against the Democratic ethos.

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      Platner can be divisive

      Only to those with either thin skin, a sense of entitlement about what kinds of people should be allowed access to political power, or who don’t have a coherent theory of change.

      Look. I’m a veteran. I drank that kool-aid and won the poverty draft lotto. I literally signed up for tacos. Understanding the imperialist machine from the inside changes you. And veterans have been representative in the fight against fascism in the US the whole time. And I’ve worked with every one in those links. Many of them were raised as conservative assholes. And for some of them it took their buddy getting blown up in the humvee next to them to wake up to the consequences of imperialism. And you should have the grace to allow people to change.

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        The “he deserved to die” outrage over Platners reddit comments literally solidified every veterans vote in Maine for Platner.

        It’s kinda funny. They (media and the establishment) are so out of touch that they tried to make outrage around a comment literally every veteran would universally understand. Mocking someone in the military for their own stupidity and incompetence that should have gotten them killed.

        I’m not a veteran myself. But, I have enough veteran friends to know that that is exactly how they talk about people they served with. It’s like military banter 101. The fact that they tried to form a “he wants troops to die” story out of it. It makes literally everything else they bring up useless.

        I’ll just be happy when I have to stop hearing about this guy. Hope he wins. But, holy shit, he’s not worth this much attention.

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          I’ll just be happy when I have to stop hearing about this guy.

          If Platner loses, you’ll hear the odd “This is why the Left Lost” op-ed for a few more years before he fades into obscurity.

          If he wins… It’s going to be Scandal of The Month with Platner for six whole years or until they can get him to resign early. Imagine the endless shit Al Franken got and then ratchet that up a peg. CBS is going to reinvent #MeToo just to monster him out of office.

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            Yeah but Al Franken didn’t have a nazi tattoo on his chest for twenty years before claiming he didn’t know the obvious nazi tattoo was a nazi tattoo.

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              At this point, I have to assume everything else you say is a lie, because you are all-in on lying about that tattoo over and over and over and over and over.

              Are you AIPAC or a Republican candidate? No one else picks one note and lies on it this much.

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                I’m a person unwilling to make excuses for a guy having a Nazi tattoo on his chest for twenty years and claims to have been unaware for the entirety of that twenty years. Which is bullshit because that tattoo would get your ass kicked at a public pool. I guess apparently not now since all y’all like excusing actual Nazi shit and claim to be just as fuck ignorant about recent fuckin super relevant history. Also, Israel doesn’t have a right to exist and is a genocidal theocratic apartheid ethnostate; fuck Israel. And all elected republicans are traitors and deserve a messy public death. So yeah, fuck you Bill.

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        I don’t believe he didn’t know what the tattoo was but he gets the benefit of the doubt as long as he keeps putting his money where his mouth is.

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          I was drunk as fuck on habu saki, 18 years old, in Okinawa one night on shore, in line with four other sailors to get tattoos. I dont remember what happened after that.

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            Did you proceed to have an obvious nazi tattoo on your chest for a decade and change? Because that’s a big blind spot and a bad look. Like, he’s better than Collins and he’s saying the right stuff, but I won’t trust him until he’s proven himself. You don’t get a nazi tattoo for years and years and not deserve a lot of extra scrutiny. He’s got a lot of work to do.

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              Dude it’s not an obvious Nazi tattoo when 9 out 10 of the people here couldn’t pick the fucking tattoo out of a lineup.

              You’re being wildly ridiculous.

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        Hah, joke’s on me. I threw that in to head off the complaining from his haters, so we could focus on the good things he’s doing. Can’t please everybody, I guess.

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          I mean your not wrong to have included it. But so much of the reaction is from a place of cynicism and bad faith. I think everyones hackles are raised, and legitimately so, around characters like Sinema and Fetterman. But what Planter is doing is clearly different and has been different since they started. I got to meet them when one of my volunteer groups were trying to make the decision around endorsing him. This was back in September & October.

          And there has been a lot which has happened between August and now. Anything that can happened in this race basically did. If they had more powder to set off, they needed to set it off weeks ago, because at this pace Platner is looking to schelack Collins.

          Its time to coalesce as a party. Schumer and Jefferies just threw the best two years we had to fight fascism to a pit and lit it on fire. But now, now Woke is back baby!, and Woke 2 gonna make your head spin. We need to see Platner, Mandami, Al Sayed (inshalah), Chris Rabb, All three of Mamdani’s endorsees on one stage. Schumer and Jefferies spoiled our ability to present a coherent front of resistance against fascism. That changes in November.

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        I believe in redemption and I think everyone should. We all grow as people, that should be celebrated.