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    Article about a young woman getting raped, Lemmyites respond by making it about the thing they care about more. Yeah, we all know that the manosphere is closely related to the fascist cultural moment we’re in, but you know that isn’t what you were referring to.

    Have some respect for fuck’s sake.

    Edit: and of course, as is usual on Lemmy, you guys get pissed if you aren’t pat on the back for having the bare minimum sense of morality (allegedly) and being told that it isn’t enough. You aren’t special for thinking rapists and pedos are bad, and you’re bad for thinking you’re enough with that alone. You guys know that you can see profiles of people who downvote, right? I can see that it’s a bunch of middle-aged men pissed at this.

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      You guys know that you can see profiles of people who downvote, right? I can see that it’s a bunch of middle-aged men pissed at this.

      Oh no guys, we better think twice before downvoting this borderline nonsensical comment.

      Calling the Trump administration the rape administration is not a joke about rape, it’s literal reality.

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      Wait, they didn’t call it the rape administration, they said “pedo.” Also true. All the comment you replied to did was point out the reality that the current US administration is full of literal rapists.

      That’s not a rape joke. There’s no joke at the expense of any victim here. You’re losing your mind, bud. Take a breath.

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      What is offensive about this, in your opinion?

      It doesn’t trivialize, or even speak on, who this guy raped. If you believe all conversation should be about the victim, that is one thing. Although some victims might not want their trauma the center of conversation.

      What you say isn’t what they are referring to is the only relation I’m seeing. What else would they be talking about?

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          Rape culture is a setting, as described by some sociological theories, in which rape is pervasive and normalized due to that setting’s attitudes about gender and sexuality. Behaviors commonly associated with rape culture include victim blaming, slut-shaming, sexual objectification, trivialization of rape, denial of widespread rape, refusal to acknowledge the harm caused by sexual violence, or some combination of these.

          I don’t see how their comment would be described as any of these. Perhaps one could read the joke as listing “rape” as a some simple, necessary credential for politics and, in doing so, trivializing rape.

          However, the subject of the joke isn’t the rape nor the victim, but the rapist Clavicular and the administration, referencing how many of the current administration have sexual assault accusations against them. The joke doesn’t downsize what he did or apologize for it.

          I am genuinely not seeing how that bolsters or perpetuates rape culture.

          Edit: and you just tried to insult me instead of answering my question about what you meant by this

          Yeah, we all know that the manosphere is closely related to the fascist cultural moment we’re in, but you know that isn’t what you were referring to.

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            Rape culture is a setting, as described by some sociological theories, in which rape is pervasive and normalized due to that setting’s attitudes about gender and sexuality. Behaviors commonly associated with rape culture include victim blaming, slut-shaming, sexual objectification, trivialization of rape, denial of widespread rape, refusal to acknowledge the harm caused by sexual violence, or some combination of these.

            Lol, “if you consider the joke about rape to be making jokes about rape, to be making jokes about rape, to be making fun of rape. It’s fine if it is the rapist, who hasn’t been raped, is being made fun of for maybe getting raped because it isnt making fun of the victim, just victims [hypothetically]”

            Shuddup, dicknuts.

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              It’s fine if it is the rapist, who hasn’t been raped, is being made fun of for maybe getting raped

              Who the hell said anything about Clavicular getting raped?!

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                I wouldn’t bother. This person is likely foaming-at-the-mouth levels of angry and unwell, and appears to be having an argument with themselves that they’ve plucked out of thin air.

                I would bet they simply misinterpreted things and thought this was a “ha ha rapist will be raped” thing. But that’s what happens when you go through life with conclusions and work backwards…you get it wrong a lot.

                Has happened to me too. But typically one doesn’t double, triple and quadruple down.

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                  I’ve been trying a new thing where I outright insult people less, especially when it seems like they are trying to do/be good in a way I’m not grokking [it was a word before Musk, and I still like it].

                  Man, I miss calling people “fucking stupid” off the rip, sometimes.

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            That would exceptionalize them. These are just run of the mill 20s-40s liberal men, that’s why it’s just shit like this and then like, opinions on the new KDE updates.

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              Surely “Lemming” would be the most appropriate title, then? It emphasises the groupthink and circlejerking that is even more prevalent here than in other, more mainstream, online spaces.

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      Reminder to all that all walks of mental illness are all over social media, and if someone is obviously crashing out it’s best not to engage. For everyone involved.

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          Don’t know, you sound more like a mix of a ten and a seven to me…

          (Also, 3 isn’t buffoonish, he’s just a bad father, victim of a poor education, unwilling to admit to himself that he regrets the way he treated his son; tragic, angry, sad, but definitely not buffoonish.

          And anyone who calls the flip-flopping milquetoast #12 “unbothered and collected” has clearly not seen the film.

          8, 1, 9, or even 4 would be much better options for the second picture, and, again, maybe 10 or 7 for the first one.

          At least watch the film before you go making ill-informed memes about it; it’s a timeless classic for a reason.)

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            Reminder to all that all walks of mental illness are all over social media, and if someone is obviously crashing out it’s best not to engage. For everyone involved.

            Seriously though, a cherry on top that one of you did some faux film analysis out of anger of my meme making fun of the (100% actually is) buffonish juror 3 rather than any of you taking thirty seconds to read about what rape culture is (despite oh so many of you apparently thinking rape is bad [a lie, like the deceitful juror 15])

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              Pretty funny coming from the guy who refused to answer when asked what, specifically, was offensive about this:

              Sounds like he wants to get a cabinet position with the Pedo Party. I mean, rape is on 99% of their resumes.

              How does this promote rape culture? Why did you resort to strange ad hominem rather than just answering the person’s simple question. You’re so mad, it should be very easy to explain why.

              And yet…

              Like there are actual bad taste rape jokes in here. This wasn’t one of them.