• James R Kirk@startrek.website
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    16 hours ago

    I always laugh when people talk about the CIA as if it is a single person, and they try to establish a sense of character by mentioning things it did in the 50s, as if any of the people involved back the. were still involved today.

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      15 hours ago

      Yeah but the people from the 50s trained everyone who came after them. I’m actually reading a book about the Dulles brothers (who basically set CIA philosophy, ethos and hiring practices) and there’s no way that the CIA isn’t still using a lot of the same practices and setting the same goals.

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        12 hours ago

        Yep haha exactly like that, excellent satire, you absolutely nailed the tone of someone trying to distract from actual effective policy changes using conspiratorial language.

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          12 hours ago

          Lol good one bro you sound just like someone who just uses a bunch of words without actually understanding what they mean. It’s not like you nor the OP mentioned anything about policy. And you definitely got a legitimate counterpoint about the character of the CIA that is relevant to understanding how the world works today. It’s easy to dismiss claims about the CIA if you’ve never actually read anything about how they’ve operated for decades.

          If you are interested in understanding why people make those claims about the CIA, I will suggest reading “The Brothers” by Stephen Kinzer or “The Jakarta Method” by Vincent Bevins. It’s pretty sobering. I also highly recommend the podcast series “Blowback” particularly season 2. You know since I know it’s important to someone like yourself to be educated on the stuff you talk about.

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            9 hours ago

            Sorry didn’t realize you were a true believer™ let’s try to remember we have the same goals even though it’s for different reasons!

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              I don’t know why you’re working so hard to defend the same agency that cooked up operation paperclip and mkultra. Like those three letter agencies didn’t do even more bonkers shit during the cold war in the name of defending capitalism. Like they haven’t declassified documents admitting to it. But uh, go off or whatever.

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    The nation is manipulated and led by the CIA. All sides - including center - suck their dick and fund them while doing so.

    We are free range slaves with ill-gotten privileges that allow us shitty forms of escapism that give us an illusion of choice and freedom, usually driven by marketing different emotions to its victims.

    We are not allowed understanding of reality, we are only allowed to trade loyalty to them for the free-range “freedom”, and if that “deal” is not accepted one gets treated like “we” treat the middle east. Even if they are a good kind person. …That’s why homelessness never goes away. It’s systematic genocide.

    /S …right?

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      Ah, yes, everything that happens is the CIA.

      If you disagree, you’re a CIA plant.

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      17 hours ago

      I mean of you take this view then no human has agency and we might as well just give ourselves over to powers we cannot possibly control.

      Which is why the politics of human society have not changed for thousands of years.

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        15 hours ago

        sigh

        so some people are deemed to be “worth more” in most human societies throughout history. this allows these individuals to control a greater portion of wealth and/or power than is reasonable. the difference between these people is commonly called “class”.

        theres lots of great literature about this phenomenon that is totally available for free online.

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      suck their dick

      Ooh I get to do a tankie now. Mods ban this person for homophobia (even though sucking dick is not specific to homosexual behavior, and implying otherwise is bigoted itself, but that doesn’t matter to me because thinking about the implications of what you say is westoid propaganda).

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        17 hours ago

        No, my instance (reddthat) doesn’t have downvotes.

        Which you can see in their about section of their sidebar. https://reddthat.com/

        Maybe people are just waking up to the bullshit. Might be worth it to look into 5th and 6th generation warfare, and John Stockwells whistleblowing.