• tidderuuf@lemmy.world
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    How is that not immediately impeachable and criminal? He knew there was a credible threat to the aircraft and let civilians fly on it.

    If the threat was serious enough that they had to do an entire ruse to sneak him off then everyone on board could have been killed.

    The flight could have easily been cancelled and he be transported by other means.

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      22 hours ago

      It is immediately impeachable and criminal, but none of the other impeachable and criminal stuff he’s done has gotten him inpeached or criminally charged, so why would this?

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      So The Daily had a good podcast about this and they brought up the fact that this isn’t the first time a Presidential detail has used a decoy, both Clinton and Bush used this. The biggest difference is that there was trust and understanding between the President and journalists and they were told about it before hand and asked not to report it and didn’t leave them high and dry unlike this miserable excuse for a fat tub of balding lard.

      I doubt this would be egregious enough for impeachment since they could easily say it was due to extraordinary threats and could point out that this tactic while extraordinarily rare is not unpresidented as this moron likes to say.

      Another article about Clinton’s decoy and being a decent human being about it. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/08/11/donald-trump-bill-clinton-switched-air-force-one-security/91254069007/

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        To be fair (too fair), it’s gotten much more difficult to trust journalists with that kind of information because everyone is now carrying at least one device that is constantly transmitting encrypted information wirelessly. If any of the journalists’ phones or watches or AI transcription devices or whatever have been compromised, which the US facilitates by finding and keeping vulnerabilities for their own backdoors, the information could leak. It’s also much more difficult to trust journalists after some of them have been replaced with random right-wing influencers friendly to the administration.

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          And none of that has anything to do with a competent administration letting the journalists know they’re in heightened security mode and at least with the traditional media, they have a solid history of recognizing and keeping the information secret and not being on record.

          What you’re pointing out, while may be valid, about telemetry or compromised applications, which you have no proof of being a threat here, traditional journalist, whatever you might think about their quality and biases, have and continue to have the shown their integrity about keeping information and trust with sensitive material, even going to jail to protect their sources from hostile administrations from both parties. TM and compromised data really have no bearing on what this Administration has done here with not informing journalists and government officials of the Presidents plan to put them in danger.

          As for the inclusion of right-wing influencers, well that’s again on this Administration for including non-trustworthy “journalists” but even they are entitled to being told their lives are in greater danger due their plan to evade the threats the Administration brought upon themselves. If they cannot abide by established journalistic standards, that’s on them and the Administration and should not preclude being a decent human being.

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      “Impeachable” is totally up to Congress, the Constitution says “high crimes and misdemeanors” qualify, but there is no formal definition for that. Republicans could have impeached Obama for the Dijon mustard if they had enough Democratic votes in the Senate who thought it was an egregious enough offense.

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        Until and unless Democrats control a majority of both the house and senate impeachment and conviction just isn’t going to happen. I don’t think there’s anything Trump could do that would get the Republicans to vote against him short of maybe rounding up a bunch of them and having them publicly executed and maybe not even then. The only way it’s remotely happening is if Democrats don’t need a single Republican to vote with them and for good measure they should count on not having a few of the Democrats vote in favor as well.

        If/when Trump and his cronies are finally removed from power the US needs major political changes to make sure this shit never happens again.

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          Conviction will never happen unless they get a 2/3rd majority in the senate becuase that is what it takes.

          …so basically conviction will never happen

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      immediately impeachable and criminal

      Add it to the pile.

      You weren’t expecting enforcement, were you?

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      I have reached the point of disgust with america. They elected this person knowing he was like this - twice, and won’t hold him accountable.

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      Because it is a longstanding reality that anyone who travels with the President is expendable, and this is understood by all parties. Its simply one of the cultish aspects of the empire.