All of that can told by looking at your oil, the gauges are just a lazy half measure lol.
The light is just so you know to check the gauges or your dipstick or whatever since they’re superfluous and always have been.
They put gauges in as the first idiot defence for people who can’t even check their vehicle before starting it. Since if you checked you oil, you would have noticed something was wrong before even starting it or needing the gauge.
And nothing is stopping you from checking the cluster when it’s safe to do so, the information is still there, it’s never needed to be there 24/7.
You also need to ignore the first part of wiki and cherry pick your information to get that take…
From the exact same wiki page, but further up….
A tell-tale, sometimes called an idiot light[1] or warning light, is an indicator of malfunction or operation of a system, indicated by a binary (on/off) illuminated light, symbol or text legend.
It’s telling you check your vehicle since you didn’t check the oil or something else before starting it, you know, like you should be.
People were ignoring the gauges until the light came on anyways, so why have it readily accessible when there other stuff?
Our 96 Sonoma that we just got in April, about a month later ended up having a massive oil leak. It first showed up on the oil pressure gauge.
One day, had to put 3 quarts in it! It wasn’t burning the oil, nor would it leave a puddle under the truck. So where the fuck was it going?
There was only one way to find out. Inspect everything with the engine running. Turned out the oil filter was ancient, clogged with what looked almost like tar, and basically pouring oil out from around the seal.
One ~$8 oil filter fixed that right up 👍
Point is, we would have never known just by checking the engine before cranking it, as the oil doesn’t pump unless the engine spinny spinny. Bonus points for having an actual oil pressure gauge, as we would have probably drove it bone dry until the engine locked up otherwise.
Oil level is not oil pressure, they are different issues.
You missed the whole part about trending changes and maintenance prediction.
Oil pressure shows you live, what is happening inside the engine. Its why Race cars , Drag Cars have giant gauges for oil pressure, etc.
Yourportion you clipped from wiki, further proves my point. Its for idiots that didn’t watch their gauges.
Of course as a car guy you check oil level, coolant level, brake fluid level, but you want live data so you know what happening when engine is running. You can prevent failure before any warning light will.
Maybe you are a computer guy: do you want your PC shutting off to thermally protect itself without warning, or do you want to compare fan rpm and CPU temp trends to spot if you have thermal issues rising. Which could indicate thermal paste issue, or you have some other thing loading the system when you thought it was just your game.
People that can glean info from daily data trends know why gauges are important, even on industrialmachineas. Idiots just want a light to tell them something is already failing.
It’s the difference between reactive maintenance and proactive maintennace.
Oil level is not oil pressure, they are different issues.
Oil pressure is directly related to the amount of oil in the system, too much oil, high pressure, not enough oil, too low. It’s slightly more complicated. But the gauges are there to tell you to check your oil anyways? So why skip not that unnecessary step and just check it…?
Idiots only need those gauges since they don’t check their oil or give their vehicle a visual once over. It starts with a visual inspection, if you’re too much of an idiot to do that, you need to rely on the gauges.
And again, the gauges aren’t just gone, they’re just moved off to the side since they aren’t needed all the time.
Using your race car analogy, you’re not driving a race car, or something where that’s needed immediately. You can dream and wish your car was that fancy I guess.
That live data is all a still available, you don’t need it 24/7 like a race driver. You’re conflating issues and points now. There’s nothing stoping you from viewing the cluster and getting your trends, is there? And those trends can all be found by doing a visual inspection anyways.
No, you can have oil within your min - max range and still have same oil pressure because its a sump system.
Oil pressure is not a good/bad measure, its a range.
Oil pressure tells you about restriction, viscosity, flow. You could have perfect oil level and various pressure readings depending on what is wrong in the engine.
So now you resort to trolling? Dude, by your other comments its clear you don’t understand cars of fluid systems. You were claiming OBD doesn’t work with car running.
Oil pressure is created by your oil pump, not by the volume of oil you hold in the sump, its not a head well. But the pressure you read changes by a lot of factors, which I attempted to educate you on.
Your dipstick checks the level of the sump… what do you think it’s checking? if it’s low or high, it’s indicative of whatever the gauge is telling you.
I’m not trolling because you think you’re educating me, it’s the other way around. You’ve got your head so far up your ass you can’t even see it.
The oil pressure gauge does not tell you how high the sump level is. I.e shut the engine off, pump makes no pressure but sump could be high. The oil pressure gauge ( not a low oil level warning light) shows increments of pressure in your engine block channels which is unrelated to oil level, unless you have run the sump dry and are trying to pump air.
But even with a full sump, oil presdur varies by engine temperature, and other flow issues like blocked oil filter or a filter that switched to bypass mode. How is it that you cannot comprehend these things dude LOL
Apparantly you can’t comprehend that a blockage that creates pressure would increase the volume of the reservoir in the sump since it’s not pumping as fast as it needs too. Or if it’s low, it could be pumping too fast because of a leak.
You’re almost there, you comprehend the basics, but fumble with the gauges being different information that a gauge. Your full sump can also overflow, but your pressure gauge can’t tell you that specifically either.
The gauge is only the sum total of all the parts, it tells you NOTHING other than to check the system, which you should already do regularly regardless anyways.
All of that can told by looking at your oil, the gauges are just a lazy half measure lol.
The light is just so you know to check the gauges or your dipstick or whatever since they’re superfluous and always have been.
They put gauges in as the first idiot defence for people who can’t even check their vehicle before starting it. Since if you checked you oil, you would have noticed something was wrong before even starting it or needing the gauge.
And nothing is stopping you from checking the cluster when it’s safe to do so, the information is still there, it’s never needed to be there 24/7.
You also need to ignore the first part of wiki and cherry pick your information to get that take…
From the exact same wiki page, but further up….
It’s telling you check your vehicle since you didn’t check the oil or something else before starting it, you know, like you should be.
People were ignoring the gauges until the light came on anyways, so why have it readily accessible when there other stuff?
Our 96 Sonoma that we just got in April, about a month later ended up having a massive oil leak. It first showed up on the oil pressure gauge.
One day, had to put 3 quarts in it! It wasn’t burning the oil, nor would it leave a puddle under the truck. So where the fuck was it going?
There was only one way to find out. Inspect everything with the engine running. Turned out the oil filter was ancient, clogged with what looked almost like tar, and basically pouring oil out from around the seal.
One ~$8 oil filter fixed that right up 👍
Point is, we would have never known just by checking the engine before cranking it, as the oil doesn’t pump unless the engine spinny spinny. Bonus points for having an actual oil pressure gauge, as we would have probably drove it bone dry until the engine locked up otherwise.
Oil level is not oil pressure, they are different issues.
You missed the whole part about trending changes and maintenance prediction.
Oil pressure shows you live, what is happening inside the engine. Its why Race cars , Drag Cars have giant gauges for oil pressure, etc.
Yourportion you clipped from wiki, further proves my point. Its for idiots that didn’t watch their gauges.
Of course as a car guy you check oil level, coolant level, brake fluid level, but you want live data so you know what happening when engine is running. You can prevent failure before any warning light will.
Maybe you are a computer guy: do you want your PC shutting off to thermally protect itself without warning, or do you want to compare fan rpm and CPU temp trends to spot if you have thermal issues rising. Which could indicate thermal paste issue, or you have some other thing loading the system when you thought it was just your game.
People that can glean info from daily data trends know why gauges are important, even on industrialmachineas. Idiots just want a light to tell them something is already failing. It’s the difference between reactive maintenance and proactive maintennace.
Oil pressure is directly related to the amount of oil in the system, too much oil, high pressure, not enough oil, too low. It’s slightly more complicated. But the gauges are there to tell you to check your oil anyways? So why skip not that unnecessary step and just check it…?
Idiots only need those gauges since they don’t check their oil or give their vehicle a visual once over. It starts with a visual inspection, if you’re too much of an idiot to do that, you need to rely on the gauges.
And again, the gauges aren’t just gone, they’re just moved off to the side since they aren’t needed all the time.
Using your race car analogy, you’re not driving a race car, or something where that’s needed immediately. You can dream and wish your car was that fancy I guess.
That live data is all a still available, you don’t need it 24/7 like a race driver. You’re conflating issues and points now. There’s nothing stoping you from viewing the cluster and getting your trends, is there? And those trends can all be found by doing a visual inspection anyways.
No, you can have oil within your min - max range and still have same oil pressure because its a sump system.
Oil pressure is not a good/bad measure, its a range.
Oil pressure tells you about restriction, viscosity, flow. You could have perfect oil level and various pressure readings depending on what is wrong in the engine.
You can’t tell that with an idiot light.
We get it, you don’t understand how the oil system works.
So now you resort to trolling? Dude, by your other comments its clear you don’t understand cars of fluid systems. You were claiming OBD doesn’t work with car running.
Oil pressure is created by your oil pump, not by the volume of oil you hold in the sump, its not a head well. But the pressure you read changes by a lot of factors, which I attempted to educate you on.
Its sad that you have dug in and can’t see that.
Your dipstick checks the level of the sump… what do you think it’s checking? if it’s low or high, it’s indicative of whatever the gauge is telling you.
I’m not trolling because you think you’re educating me, it’s the other way around. You’ve got your head so far up your ass you can’t even see it.
The oil pressure gauge does not tell you how high the sump level is. I.e shut the engine off, pump makes no pressure but sump could be high. The oil pressure gauge ( not a low oil level warning light) shows increments of pressure in your engine block channels which is unrelated to oil level, unless you have run the sump dry and are trying to pump air. But even with a full sump, oil presdur varies by engine temperature, and other flow issues like blocked oil filter or a filter that switched to bypass mode. How is it that you cannot comprehend these things dude LOL
Apparantly you can’t comprehend that a blockage that creates pressure would increase the volume of the reservoir in the sump since it’s not pumping as fast as it needs too. Or if it’s low, it could be pumping too fast because of a leak.
You’re almost there, you comprehend the basics, but fumble with the gauges being different information that a gauge. Your full sump can also overflow, but your pressure gauge can’t tell you that specifically either.
The gauge is only the sum total of all the parts, it tells you NOTHING other than to check the system, which you should already do regularly regardless anyways.