• DevDave@piefed.socialEnglish
    2·
    9 days ago

    I remember Reddit used to have the ability to show both upvote and downvotes. I miss that feature.

    • Zarobi@aussie.zoneEnglish
      1·
      9 days ago

      Lemmy has this feature which is really nice… -20 points doesn’t show +20 and -40. It mentally feels a lot better to know that 20 people agreed with you even if more people disagreed

      • DevDave@piefed.socialEnglish
        1·
        9 days ago

        I often wonder if that is the reason Reddit dropped it, to make controlling and influencing the user base easier? A joke example, seeing +100 to -99 votes regarding the sacrilege or glory of pineapple on pizza is a lot different then just +1 or -1

        Reddit’s shadow ban system is another part of why I don’t trust them. Plenty of times I’ve seen posts where metadata says there are multiple comments but instead its empty without even the [deleted by reddit] trail. Could be just their distributed database taking its sweet ass time to become consistent or maybe those people are on some sort of shit list?

        For myself I know I keep saying something that results in me getting some extra attention from an LLM because I keep getting sub 30 second instant bans and warnings for ambiguous comments that sound threatening but aren’t. I lost a 20 year old account because of the comment “We should never have killed that fucking bear” being determined as advocating violence.

  • Zephyr@sh.itjust.works
    2·
    9 days ago

    Any service only cares about engagement so the dislike was never really useful because the core of engagement is rage bait. The only way to truly downvote content is to not engage with it whatsoever. Ex. The only way to dislike Instagram is to not use the platform

    • turdas@suppo.fi
      01·
      9 days ago

      The problem is that sometimes you can’t know whether the content is worth engaging until you view it. At least YouTube shorts still have the “Don’t recommend channel” option.

      • M137@lemmy.today
        01·
        7 days ago

        Why’d you specify shorts? That’s a thing normal videos too (both “not interested” and “don’t recommend channel”).

      • TuringCompleteSocialist@lemmy.world
        1·
        8 days ago

        Yea, about that. I have a channel that no matter how many times i say “don’t recommend me this channel” i would keep getting it, to comedic effect. Like i would press the button and then immediately get the same channel 4 times in a row. I have now pressed that button maybe 30 times and it is still showing up. Fuck YouTube.

        • OwOarchist@pawb.socialEnglish
          1·
          8 days ago

          youtube.com/feed/subscriptions

          Set that as your default youtube homepage. It shows you ONLY channels you’re subscribed to, with all their most recent videos in chronological order. No algorithm, and only what you want to see.

          I’m sure youtube will kill that sooner or later, but for now, it’s the only way to go.

  • DupaCycki@lemmy.world
    1·
    7 days ago

    Aside from complaining, make sure to do something about it. Otherwise there’s no point.

    1. Absolutely use uBlock Origin and Sponsorblock on all devices you watch youtube on.
    2. There’s a Return Youtube Dislike extension you can use. Bonus: you can use data from it to shame various’ companies videos, which is what youtube primarily wanted to avoid by removing dislikes.
    3. For creators mostly - there are other video-sharing websites you can post your content on (or even easily mirror your youtube uploads). Make sure to upload somewhere else too, so that more people can leave youtube forever.

    Do whatever you can to harm youtube (or Google more broadly), as well as support alternatives. Memes and complaining by themselves are pointless, and solve zero issues.

  • TuringCompleteSocialist@lemmy.world
    1·
    8 days ago

    The decision to kill the dislike button is very much strictly anti consumer and marks the beginning of the enshitification of youtube, especially the enshitification of the comment section. It use to be that if someone had the most dogshit opinion, they would be disliked into oblivion and nobody would see it. Now even the worst opinions imaginable will be pushed to the top if it can find 100 like minded mouth breathers, effectively normalizing it in the eyes of the average viewer. Same goes for whole videos too. I desperately wish we would come up with a real federated alternative to it, because right now its actively contributing to the decline of humanity.

  • yesman@lemmy.world
    0·
    9 days ago

    This has always confused me.

    I’ve never liked, disliked, rated, commented, or shared a Youtube video. Because I’m using Freetube, I technically don’t even subscribe anymore. Why are y’all so eager to maintain the algorithm? Does “disliking” a video feel like agency?

    If you really wanna punish Youtube creators, watch their video for less than 30 seconds. That won’t count as a view, but I bet the algorithm clocks it as a dislike.