• OwOarchist@pawb.social
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    At this point, I don’t even know. Every bit of news coming out of it is potentially highly biased by one side or the other. I don’t think I could be completely sure unless I went there and saw for myself.

    However… I’m highly suspicious of anyone who says, “The genocide is obviously fake – see, official Chinese state media says so, and that’s that!”

    Even if the genocide actually isn’t real (and it might not be), I really don’t think I want to associate with people who would blindly and enthusiastically take the accused state’s word on it without a second thought.

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        Third party evidence on which side? Because aside from Chinese media, I haven’t seen much that disproves the ongoing genocide narrative.

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            That video is pretty short on any kind of evidence. Its a pro-CCP influencer basically saying trust me bro, the programs in Xinjiang are great.

            I’m not saying he is necessarily wrong, but I don’t think there is enough substance there.

            • Calfpupa [she/her]@lemmy.ml
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              pro-CCP influencer with only 3 china videos out of 25? Try better to write off the evidence. He went to the province and interviewed native. He explains the origin of the claims and breaks them down. Did you watch the video?

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                I did watch it. And there were some red flags. He is an influencer that left the US and moved to China, which isn’t necessarily a reason to discount him. However, he also treats Taiwan like it is settled that it is a Chinese territory when the CCP has at no point governed over Taiwan. So he is parroting CCP narratives on Taiwan, which casts doubt on other things he is discussing. He also did the tired trope of referencing US atrocities like the genocide of indigenous people in the US, which has nothing to do with the topic at hand. So forgive me for not trusting his video and referencing him as a pro-CCP influencer based on the talking points and content of the video.

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                  He is an influencer that left the US and moved to China, which isn’t necessarily a reason to discount him.

                  Yes, it is. It is illegal to criticize the CCP in China. If this man makes any videos which criticize the CCP or Chinese society in any way then he opens himself up to arrest and deportation. He literally cannot tell the truth, even if he wanted to.

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                Dude, they don’t want to argue based on facts.

                He’s gonna move the goal posts, no true scotsman, no sequitur until you quit, then act like they won.

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                    What do you mean “Yeah…”? They already replied to you a while ago and it wasn’t anything at all like this whining above.

                    Go respond to the legitimate misgivings about your source instead of pretending like this guy’s stupid prediction came true.