They will indeed do exactly this in my experience. We even had a sort of viral video of this happening here in Hungary… train broke down, they opened the doors and walked people through the nearby woods to the nearest village.
If Hungary is managing a better train experience than Spain… I would understand your frustration, the situation must be pretty damn dire there.
But again, I doubt this has happened at all… even aside from physical, can you cite a situation where conductors would not “let people off the train” when it was getting dangerously hot during a breakdown? It’s hard to believe that Hungary would handle this better…
Walking through the woods is not what I would call “a better [train] experience”. High speed railways has fences, you can’t just walk out. Your experience in Hungary will be different than in other countries, yes. In Poland you can jump out of a moving trains, go for a walk in a forest, pick some mushroom sand catch it again. It doesn’t mean you can do it everywhere.
Walking through the woods is not what I would call “a better [train] experience”.
What are you actually wanting here? “They won’t let us off the train, we’re cooking in here” and then “Oh they let you off the train, what an awful experience”? Pick a lane here, guy. Being let off the train sounds a lot better to me than heat stroke… I’m still not sure what you really want in this scenario.
I’d still like to know when this actually happened? A breakdown, sure. But trying to keep people to stay on a clearly dangerous train? Hard to believe.
Do you not have mandatory gates every x km in Spain? We have plenty of sound barrier fencing, and all of them have gates a short distance apart exactly for safety reasons.
Do you not have mandatory gates every x km in Spain? We have plenty of sound barrier fencing, and all of them have gates a short distance apart exactly for safety reasons.
WTF are you talking about? This is what high speed railway looks like:
Do you see any sidewalks? Why de fuck would they put gates there? People are not supposed to walk there. Ever. There are trains there going over 300 km/h. You don’t let hundreds of people leave a walk around. You clearly have no idea what are we talking about here. You only know soviet union era trains and service. What you suggest is like letting people leave a plane and walk along the tarmac.
What are you actually wanting here? “They won’t let us off the train, we’re cooking in here” and then “Oh they let you off the train, what an awful experience”?
What I want is to get from point A to point B safely. Sitting in a hot train is not safe. Walking through a forest will be impossible for the elderly, disabled, people with babies or lots of luggage. Do you just leave those people behind? Trains in Spain don’t carry crew that’s supposed to take care of hundredths of people and lead them to safety on foot. I know that in a 3rd world countries people are used to fighting for survival and won’t mind hiking through a forest with their suitcases. We don’t do that in civilized countries. When trains break down here you have to make difficult choices while trying to keep everyone safe and the situation will suck for a lot of people.
Look, I’m not sure if there’s a language barrier here, so I’ll try to rephrase this simply: if trains have fencing on either side, there are almost always man gates every so often so that a) the tracks can be accessed for maintenance and b) in case of an emergency ( like we’re discussing, ahem ) there is an exit to get people out and off of the tracks.
Is your expectation for emergency egress that sidewalks are required along the entire route in order to have emergency exits from a fenced area???
What you suggest is like letting people leave a plane and walk along the tarmac.
Buddy, this is exactly what sometimes happens. What do you think they do? Sometimes a plane just isn’t able to be fixed on the spot and you have to disembark on the spot. Shit happens.
What I want is to get from point A to point B safely.
Then why are you driving? That’s statistically way, way, way more likely to end in a fatality for you and it isn’t even very close.
Southern Europe cosplaying as western Europe for the purposes of feeling superior to eastern Europe is legitimately funny though, especially since I’m from a place where both would be considered barely functioning countries lol.
That being said, you seem to really be getting up in your feelings with this since we’re devolving to both unearned and mistargeted national pride, so I think now is probably a good time to block and move on :) . Been fun, amigo, but maybe get one of your countrymen to pass a J and loosen up a bit, eh?
I’m exaggerating on purpose because it feels like I’m talking to a baby and it’s the only way to get something across.
Buddy, this is exactly what sometimes happens. What do you think they do? Sometimes a plane just isn’t able to be fixed on the spot and you have to disembark on the spot. Shit happens.
No, unless the plane explodes they never let people walk along the tarmac. You’re talking soviet era service again.
No need to be prickly :).
They will indeed do exactly this in my experience. We even had a sort of viral video of this happening here in Hungary… train broke down, they opened the doors and walked people through the nearby woods to the nearest village.
If Hungary is managing a better train experience than Spain… I would understand your frustration, the situation must be pretty damn dire there.
But again, I doubt this has happened at all… even aside from physical, can you cite a situation where conductors would not “let people off the train” when it was getting dangerously hot during a breakdown? It’s hard to believe that Hungary would handle this better…
In a non emergency, of course.
Walking through the woods is not what I would call “a better [train] experience”. High speed railways has fences, you can’t just walk out. Your experience in Hungary will be different than in other countries, yes. In Poland you can jump out of a moving trains, go for a walk in a forest, pick some mushroom sand catch it again. It doesn’t mean you can do it everywhere.
What are you actually wanting here? “They won’t let us off the train, we’re cooking in here” and then “Oh they let you off the train, what an awful experience”? Pick a lane here, guy. Being let off the train sounds a lot better to me than heat stroke… I’m still not sure what you really want in this scenario.
I’d still like to know when this actually happened? A breakdown, sure. But trying to keep people to stay on a clearly dangerous train? Hard to believe.
Do you not have mandatory gates every x km in Spain? We have plenty of sound barrier fencing, and all of them have gates a short distance apart exactly for safety reasons.
WTF are you talking about? This is what high speed railway looks like:
Do you see any sidewalks? Why de fuck would they put gates there? People are not supposed to walk there. Ever. There are trains there going over 300 km/h. You don’t let hundreds of people leave a walk around. You clearly have no idea what are we talking about here. You only know soviet union era trains and service. What you suggest is like letting people leave a plane and walk along the tarmac.
What I want is to get from point A to point B safely. Sitting in a hot train is not safe. Walking through a forest will be impossible for the elderly, disabled, people with babies or lots of luggage. Do you just leave those people behind? Trains in Spain don’t carry crew that’s supposed to take care of hundredths of people and lead them to safety on foot. I know that in a 3rd world countries people are used to fighting for survival and won’t mind hiking through a forest with their suitcases. We don’t do that in civilized countries. When trains break down here you have to make difficult choices while trying to keep everyone safe and the situation will suck for a lot of people.
Relax, amigo.
Look, I’m not sure if there’s a language barrier here, so I’ll try to rephrase this simply: if trains have fencing on either side, there are almost always man gates every so often so that a) the tracks can be accessed for maintenance and b) in case of an emergency ( like we’re discussing, ahem ) there is an exit to get people out and off of the tracks.
Is your expectation for emergency egress that sidewalks are required along the entire route in order to have emergency exits from a fenced area???
Buddy, this is exactly what sometimes happens. What do you think they do? Sometimes a plane just isn’t able to be fixed on the spot and you have to disembark on the spot. Shit happens.
Then why are you driving? That’s statistically way, way, way more likely to end in a fatality for you and it isn’t even very close.
Southern Europe cosplaying as western Europe for the purposes of feeling superior to eastern Europe is legitimately funny though, especially since I’m from a place where both would be considered barely functioning countries lol.
That being said, you seem to really be getting up in your feelings with this since we’re devolving to both unearned and mistargeted national pride, so I think now is probably a good time to block and move on :) . Been fun, amigo, but maybe get one of your countrymen to pass a J and loosen up a bit, eh?
Drive safe!
I’m exaggerating on purpose because it feels like I’m talking to a baby and it’s the only way to get something across.
No, unless the plane explodes they never let people walk along the tarmac. You’re talking soviet era service again.