Please tell me i’m not the only one who still finds this ridiculous and believes that only a court of law can determine guilt?
Please tell me i’m not the only one who still finds this ridiculous and believes that only a court of law can determine guilt?
Also, in the narrative, he was apparently black out drunk, so he conveniently has no recollection and cannot defend himself.
Like seriously, what are you supposed to do if this happens to you? Someone you used to date comes out of the woodwork and accuses you of rape, in a form you wouldn’t even remember.
How are you supposed to react to such a thing? How would you react if someone showed up at your work, accusing you of rape, demanding you be fired without trial?
I think he should take her to court there are things that can prove his innocence. Warrants to get the cell phone pings of his location, the instagram data that was supposedly deleted can still be retrieved. The emails to the Therapist. He should also have other women in his life that he’s dated speak on his character.
If Johnny Depp can win against Amber Heard I think he still has a chance.
The women he’s dated have spoken on his character, it was pretty bad.
I dunno, this feels like how Republicans defend their own regardless of what comes out. I get you can like a guy’s stances but at some point, if we want to be the party of good, we have to act like it.
Fine. Indict him for rape. Senators are not exempt from felony prosecution.
Sure, that’s up to the victim etc.
And as far as I’m aware, being a felon doesn’t make someone ineligible for running for Senate.
If he was convicted, and he didn’t have the honor to step down, the Senate would vote to kick him out at that point. The Senate has routinely voted to kick people out convicted of serious felonies. And he would be replaced with another Democrat anyway. Plus the establishment dems would be happy to see him go.
If he’s convicted, and if he doesn’t step down, he would be kicked out of the Senate by a vote of 99-1.
So, if his victim doesn’t feel comfortable undergoing the emotional toil of a legal battle about rape, that means he’s good people?
Have you also lobbied and argued for folks who stepped down etc after the Epstein files as almost none of that has gone to court yet?
If you really internalize the foundational values of our democracy, yes. You do understand that we’re not supposed to punish people without trial, right? If a victim doesn’t want to come forward, I can understand why. But protecting victims is no excuse to dismantle the very foundations of justice.
To my knowledge, none of those accusations were made in an extremely opportune manner that demanded action be immediately taken without proper time to investigate them. And the people who were asked to step down are those who we have clear evidence of making damning emails with Epstein. That’s the key thing - we have the actual damning emails. We have very little contemporary evidence here.
There’s a different between legal punishment and consequences. Typically on the Left, we have this fight with the Right about free speech; yes, the government won’t stop you from saying horrific things but those horrific statements still have consequences. Kanye for example, has committed (as far as I know) no crimes but I would be similarly uncomfortable were he running for Senate.
(I also think it’s pretty funny that in the next paragraph, you’re totally fine with people stepping down without a trial, even though you also claim that punishing people without a trial is a foundational value of American democracy.)
I think at the end of the day, it comes down to what you’re willing to tolerate. Personally, I have many women and girls in my life whom I love and value so, I don’t feel at all comfortable with an accused rapist running for Senate. I’ve known enough victims to have some sense of how horrific those situations are, why not everyone feels comfortable going to trial and why predators should be avoided. I didn’t feel good about Platner after the piece came out a month ago detailing a bunch of disturbing behavior to women but hey, everyone has different values.
To each their own.
Nah Republicans are a different breed because they’ll keep supporting even after the court of law has been applied to establish guilt. I’m asking for people to at least let him get to court. Also what sources do you have to show people speaking on his character?
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/04/us/politics/platner-maine-senate-girlfriends-relationships.html
There are people seriously pushing here that because this woman is conservative she must be lying.
I believe her.
That’s such a weird line, like she planned this out a decade before Platner got into politics?
It’s just so depressing. I get that folks can love his positions but goddamn, I also thought we had standards.
There’s some real conspiracy theory shit brewing here. Talk about the text messages being made up by Israel and whatnot. It’s a little much considering the most believable part of this story is that a man got drunk and forced himself on the woman he was seeing at the time.
Ugh.
I guess, glass half full, it’s nice to see the Right doesn’t have a monopoly on “well, he’s our guy so everything else is a rigged conspiracy.”
Depressing AF.