• ryannathans@aussie.zone
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    4 days ago

    The lazy part is not questioning the bullshit they noticed and did nothing about - not using the tool

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      4 days ago

      I disagree on that; we lose the muscles we don’t use and I’ve already seen that happening. It’s also making people want to jump straight to implementation without proper design and I think that’s a recipe for trouble.

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        4 days ago

        Again, cowboys have been skipping steps and doing things lazily and poorly well before AI. Everyone knows people who jump straight into an IDE instead of following proper workflows. Yes, skills you don’t practice take a hit. In a professional setting there is such a substantial productivity hit to avoid all AI use, compared to correct and proper use. It will soon be infeasible to take such at anti AI stance and remain in the industry

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          4 days ago

          cowboys have been skipping steps and doing things lazily and poorly well before AI

          Of course, but I think not understanding what they’re committing is more dangerous than before (even allowing for the classic “I copied and pasted this from xxxx site”). This is also true when people are fully trusting AI to review code as well.

          We use AI for code reviews which I do find useful. It’s still wrong part of the time (sometimes ridiculously so). So far, it’s also failed to provide accurate documentation for various repos which seems like something rather basic. I’m not against all AI (though I do have ethical and environmental concerns with several of the commercial options). I will not have them write code for me, though.

          As for the future, we’ll just have to wait and see. I’ve seen a lot of AI budgets exceeded and/or cut. I do think it’s not there yet for a number of tasks but is suitable (again minus certain concerns) for others.

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            3 days ago

            This is also true when people are fully trusting AI to review code as well.

            Holy shit.

            We use AI for code reviews which I do find useful.

            What’s it going to tell you that a static analysis tool wouldn’t? (And we all know what a hell of false positives you get into with those).

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            4 days ago

            Machines cannot take responsibility for problems, which is why I feel containment barriers cannot be entirely AI. AI reviews are fine (and catch a lot of wild issues humans miss) if a human genuinely reviews it too

            I’ve lost count of how many snippets I’ve reviewed that were verbatim pasted from stack overflow pre-AI lol

            My view is that humans produce a lot of garbage, and AI tooling currently amplifies your productivity. If you’re careless, don’t take pride and normally commit tech debt then with AI tooling that’s going to be amplified 10-100x. The more careless you are the faster you can commit more garbage - especially if you’re skipping on unit/integration/functional testing