FWIW, i left the usa after the 2000 elections (i voted 3rd party). The writing was on the wall with regards to the direction of the country. Best decision i ever made in my life.

Thanks for answering, well done, and best wishes. 🙂

Kind of sus

Understandable, but as a Canadian who has voted many times, but never Liberal, NDP, Progressive Conservative/Reform/Alliance/“new” Conservative/WTF-they-might-call-themselves-in-the-future, and one who gets flak and downvotes because apparently a lot of leftist progressive Americans (even Noam Chomsky) believe that people should shun 3rd parties and vote Democrat (such as Chomsky saying Clinton was preferable to Green or others), and work within the Democratic party, even though the last time they had a relatively progressive candidate, IIUC, in 1972, he lost 49 states.

So when a person protests wt:thons progressivism, leftism, and/or socialism, I ask who they voted for (did they vote for Harris? Biden? Clinton? (as I think of it) Obama a second time? Kerry? Gore? Slick Willie a second time?).

Take the Planer scandal.

my post: https://lemmy.world/post/49274836

It’s now going to be a choice between Collins or Platner’s replacement, who might or might not be Troy Jackson, even though it seems that a group who collected 4000 signatures before June (this year—2026) could have fielded a candidate for senator—not field a contender for the Democratic party nomination, but a candidate in a senate race—far more to their ideological liking.

Are you an American who has voted for a party other than Democrat or Republican?

.1. Happened before the Boomers. Fine, “Boomers protected existing policy.”

You moved the goalposts:

“Policy voted in by Boomers.” → “Boomers protected existing policy.”

and even then you kind of fail:

I’d say boomers did little about it, aside from voting for politicians (pre-boomers (e.g Mitch), boomers (e.g. Richard Blumenthal), and post-boomers (e.g. Gen-Xers like MTG, or Millennials like Matt Gaetz)).

While proportionately more boomers might vote for the bad guys—by a few percentage points—than post-boomers, it’s not much of a difference, and Gen Xers and Millennials might get more conservative as they get older. Look at Alex Karp, a Gen Xer: IIUC he went from describing himself as a Marxist and supporting Biden, to being in league with Trump.

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.2. “Policy not needed” either it’s a problem or it isn’t. If it’s a problem then policy would improve it. If it’s not a problem then don’t list it.

I don’t see how policy would improve such things.

.4. What policy would you think of that would stop people from using Twitter, Facebook, and Amazon? or give alternatives a chance?

Bluesky seems to be a big alternative to Twitter; but perhaps it’s cool in a way Twitter was cool 15 years ago. How are we sure it won’t become as bad as Twitter in, say, 2041, when members of Gen Alpha might become members of Congress?

.5. What policy would you have to prevent cat and dog owners feeding their pets factory farmed meat?

What about those poor Gen Zs who can afford the expensive free range meat? Should their pet food be subsidized? This might tick-off the animal rights crowd—the ones who protest veganism while not keeping darling cute little furry pet carnivores.

.7. What policy would you have for independent solar? That every house sold must have, say, an array of PVCs that can produce up to 4 kilowatts of power and an array of batteries—wp:Nickel–iron batteries as they are less harmful to the environment than lithium or even lead-acid?

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Regardless, you listed a problem which could be improved by policy which never happened because Boomers didn’t make it a priority.

and I don’t see post-boomers easily or quickly changing things either.

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I don’t give two shits about Platner or whatever smear campaign corporate centrists are trying to run to stop the DSA from gaining ground.

So it’s okay for a candidate to rape if he’s a progressive. Ditto the totenkopf. Ditto that he participated in mass-murder of Iraqis and Afghanis.

Some of it makes me think of “wp:It’s the economy, stupid” for Bill Clinton.

Also,

wp:Clinton–Lewinsky scandal#Legacy and retrospective assessment

Legacy and retrospective assessment

The Clinton–Lewinsky scandal was subject to widespread media coverage, resulting in considerable difficulties for Monica Lewinsky later in life as she attempted to find employment. In 2014, she publicly re-emerged as an activist against cyberbullying and public shaming after writing the essay Shame and Survival for Vanity Fair.[68] Subsequently, several prominent media figures who had covered or mocked Lewinsky during the scandal expressed regret at their role in it. David Letterman remarked “I feel bad about my role in helping push the humiliation to the point of suffocation”.[69]

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IMO, non-American boomer women are probably more progressive and/or less toxic than post-boomer American men.

Indeed, non-American boomer women from OECD, EU, and/or EFTA member states are probably more progressive and/or less toxic than post-boomer American men.

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https://youtu.be/vbkxVa_3lGc?t=386 (cued, maybe watch for 100 seconds)

The oldest boomer turned 21 in 1967, and 18 year-olds could essentially only vote for President in 1972 and after (18 year-olds in 1972 were generally born in 1954).

The youngest boomer turned 18 in 1982.

None of them voted for Roosevelt, Kennedy, or LBJ;

and the youngest boomers couldn’t vote for Nixon, Ford, Carter, or Reagan’s first term.

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Clinton was the first boomer President, and for about 8 years, there were no new wars, save the bombing of Belgrade in 1999 after they were ethnically cleaning Kosovars and Europe was doing little about it.

A majority of boomers voted for Dubya, but the same applies to Gen Xers, and perhaps some early millennials.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_United_States_presidential_election#Voter_demographics

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1. pre-dates boomers, and many boomers opposed/oppose.

2. most Americans revere their vets.

3. many people supported it. Many late gen Xers and Millennials were P2P fans, but many seem to have given it up for iTunes, iPods, and iPhones—because Steve Jobs is such a frickin’ genius and innovator.

4. Policy not needed: if all post-boomers ceased such, these companies would take big hits, and alternatives would have far better success, but if anything, post-boomers seem even more addicted to such than boomers. Post boomers can’t help it. Free will doesn’t exist, or so I’m told by younger folks. When was the last time you didn’t use your smart phone for 24 hours, if ever?

5. Policy not needed: don’t feed one’s cats and dogs with such meat, or give up on cats and dogs.

6. IMO, most of these annoying vehicles are driven by post-boomers.

7. Policy not needed: the typical post-boomer probably hasn’t read the Wikipedia article on PVCs or batteries. Maybe some AI will tell them on their phone and they might remember it—maybe.

8. Such policies existed before boomers could vote.

9. Have you read what I stated? Many post-boomers do most of the dumping. I get downvoted here for promoting 3rd parties and attacking the 2-party state. But yes, go support Millennial Graham Platner because an old boomer like Susan Cole mustn’t win—and support Bernie and AOC, until they are sidelined and then vote for the centrist nominee. Don’t even think of voting 3rd party as most post-boomers seem to oppose it.

Don’t vote for Jill Stein as it could sap votes from Harris. Don’t vote for gay Millennial Chase Oliver because Trump is essentially libertarian.

The Graham Platner Left Is Rewriting History

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FtyyQi198k

24:17

BadEmpanada Live

10. I don’t think boomers were the largest voting block in the mid-1970s.

11. Mark Carney—he’s the PM of Canada—is Gen X.

1. America’s bloated military budget and imperialism.

2. US veneration of veterans—those war criminals who fought after Korea, if not after WWII.

3. increase protections “intellectual property” means increased violations of free speech, property, and things such as progress.

4. people still using Twitter, Facebook, and Amazon, even though it makes their owners richer.

5. cat and dog owners who feed their pets factory farmed meat, and people who buy eggs from those who have hens in battery cages.

6. vehicles that are excessively loud be they pick-up trucks, sports cars, and motorcycles.

7. people spending $100 000s on a house, but not a fraction of that to make it over half energy self-sufficient with things such as solar cells and battery arrays.

8. NIMBY laws that causes much of the homelessness.

9. Americans who dump on 3rd party candidates because they think they can change the 2-party state from within the 2 parties.

10. Local cable monopolies—a cable isn’t a highway or railroad—you can bunch up cables of competitors together.

11. Canadian retaliatory tariffs on the US. Let the free market—something that Trump and many in American business who aren’t acquainted with—do the retaliating.

among other things.

to your 1st question: There was/is a number of problems.

to your 2nd question: I don’t know: I don’t know you, pseudonymous.

The problem is your ageism.

It’s a question.

Go away.

no.

How many Gen Xers to Gen Z vote for socialism?

https://lemmy.world/post/48966498/24603748

wp:Capitalism

Capitalism is an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and its use for the purpose of obtaining profit.[1][2] This socioeconomic system has developed historically in several stages and is defined by a number of constituent elements: private property, profit motive, capital accumulation, competitive markets, commodification, wage labor, and an emphasis on innovation and economic growth.[3][4] Capitalist economies may experience business cycles of economic expansion followed by recessions.[5]

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wt:capitalism

Noun

capitalism (countable and uncountable, plural capitalisms)

.1. (politics, economics) A socio-economic system based on private ownership of resources, and capital and their exploitation for profit.

.1. (Marxism) An economic system based on private control of the means of production and the exploitation of labour by capital.

.2. (economic liberalism) An economic system based on private property and the abstraction of resources into the form of privately owned capital, with economic decisions made largely through the operation of a market unregulated by the state.

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wq:Capitalism

The failure of capitalism is still much better than the success of socialism.

Garry Kasparov, Interview with Bill Kristol (April 2016), transcript

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It would be better for us to go down with Bolshevism than live in eternal slavery under capitalism.

Joseph Goebbels, The Devil’s Disciples: Hitler’s Inner Circle by Anthony Read (2004) p. 142, diary entry Oct. 23, 1925

What kind of loser spends their free time going around defending boomers?

A sad pathetic loser. Baby Boomers are scum—every single one of them.

Does that make you happy, kiddo?

Did you vote Communist then?

and about 16 months after the voting age went from 21 to 18. 😁 🙂

Thank you.

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It seems that according to your chart:

in 1990, baby boomers had perhaps less than 20% of the wealth—presumably early boomers such as Trump or Clinton had most of it, but over 50% were Silent Generation (such as Larry Ellison) and earlier. Also Papa Bush was President, and Thatcher and Mulroney were PMs (UK and Canada respectively).

in 2000, baby boomers had perhaps perhaps 40% of the wealth, and the oldest Gen Xer was 35. Clinton was President, Blair and Chrétien were PMs (UK and Canada respectively).

in 2010, baby boomers probably had over 50% of the wealth—though probably less than 55%—and I’d say perhaps 70% of millennials were of voting age. Obama—a Boomer—was President, Brown and then Cameron—both Gen Xers—were PMs of UK, while Harper—a boomer—lead minority government in Canada (Michael Ignatieff—a liberal and Liberal Russian-Canadian intellectual Boomer was Opposition leader).

in 2020, baby boomers probably still had over 50% of the wealth—though probably less than 56%—with Gen X and Millennials having almost 25% of the wealth with Silent and earlier have perhaps less than 15%. Trump was President and Boris Johnson was PM—both boomers. Gen Xer Trudeau was Canadian PM. This was the big Covid-19 year.

in 2025 (Q4), baby boomers probably still had over 50% of the wealth, with Gen X and Millennials having perhaps 35% of the wealth with Silent and earlier have perhaps more than 10%. Trump was President, Keir Starmer (another Boomer) and Mark Carney (another Gen Xer) were PMs.

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In 2028, the youngest Boomer will be 63 years old, while the oldest (such as Trump) will be 82. If the perception is most are sedentary fat asses on their electric scooters, and that this is indeed unhealthy, then many will die off by then. If one of these is not true, then many will be alive and will perhaps give some hope for those younger who maybe be wishing to greet the 22nd century alive and healthy, or at least relatively healthy.

From 2010 to 2015 Gen X and Millennials went from about 8% of the wealth, to about 35%, or about 4.375x or about 4.3% per annum. At this rate by 2028, they will have about 48% of the wealth, or get to 50% in about 9 years—2035. At this point, the youngest Boomer will be 88, the youngest Gen Xer 70, the youngest Millennial 54, the youngest Zoomer 21, and perhaps a third of Generation Alpha be of voting age.

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I predict that in 2028, the Presidency will go to either J.D. Vance, or a centrist Democrat—perhaps Newsom—and 2032 will probably go to the incumbent—In the past 100 years only 7 first-term incumbents were succeeded by another, over the course of less than 22 years: 2 were in the 1920s, one was assassinated, one was a Democrat who lost to Reagan, one arguably had his vote split by a billionaire “outsider” who regarded both parties with contempt ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naHdnyogJjA 1:02 ), and one who was/is an octogenarian.

(FWIW, I predicted Dubya would win in 2004, Obama in 2008, again in 2012, Clinton in 2016, and around Sept/Oct 2020, that Biden would win. 😁)

I’m Canadian, and I voted either Libertarian or Green.

Again, who did you vote for?

Please answer or I will presume that you either didn’t vote, or you voted for Clinton, Biden, and Harris.

Silent Generation, Boomers, Gen X, or Millennials: which of these has the most wealth?

Do any of them have over 35% of the nation’s wealth?

IIUC, in the past 100 years, several Democrats have won the Presidency without mail-in ballots.