Explaining that there are motivations beyond Putin being evil
Again, you can agree that both things are fucked.
So threads like this is where polite discourse ends. It’s like “facts with proof: US announced to extend Nato to Ukraine in 2008 to remain hegemon, they regime changed and couped Ukraine in 2014, here you see nazis all over Ukraine” in an attempt to show that there are motivations beyond Putin being evil.
And you just say “yeah both sides man! both sides! But tankies man, they would support slave holders today!”
You offer the insults. You deny reality. You do the warmongering. We’re not even defending Putin, all we’re saying “they reacted like predicted and how they said they would. If we want peace, we need to act like this and accept their demand for Ukraine neutrality”
And that is NOT the same. You’re the imperial fascist warmonger denying reality. We (the people you call tankies) are the rational, educated and initially polite people suggesting a peaceful solution.
So threads like this is where polite discourse ends. It’s like “facts with proof: US announced to extend Nato to Ukraine in 2008 to remain hegemon, they regime changed and couped Ukraine in 2014, here you see nazis all over Ukraine” in an attempt to show that there are motivations beyond Putin being evil.
And you just say “yeah both sides man! both sides! But tankies man, they would support slave holders today!”
You offer the insults. You deny reality. You do the warmongering. We’re not even defending Putin, all we’re saying “they reacted like predicted and how they said they would. If we want peace, we need to act like this and accept their demand for Ukraine neutrality”
And that is NOT the same. You’re the imperial fascist warmonger denying reality. We (the people you call tankies) are the rational, educated and initially polite people suggesting a peaceful solution.