if the US could just bail, let China and the ME pick up the pieces, and somehow spin is as a victory, why haven’t they done it already?
I’ve explained the only answer. US/Trump wants oil prices higher, and Israel cares only about damage/endless war with Iran, and not any costs to Americans or world.
Yes spinning total withdrawal as a victory is groundwork Trump laid on 2nd day of war. Mission accomplished. GOP media will reinforce victory. DNC criticism will be pushed back as “Dems just hate America, and want higher oil prices, and endless wars”. Trump simply doesn’t want “victory”, is the only answer.
So “anyone who wants to leave is a traitor who wants higher oil prices” but also the US wants higher oil prices, even though increased costs are fucking murdering the GOP in the polls?
I’m sorry but every part of this is so incoherent that I can’t even begin to follow your reasoning, such as it is.
You’re absolutely right that Israel wants to keep the war going, but seem to be entirely unaware of, for example, the stories that have come out from White House insiders about Trump screaming at Netanyahu on the phone for fucking up his peace process. Really not sure how that squares with your idea that Trump secretly wants the war to continue.
So “anyone who wants to leave is a traitor who wants higher oil prices”
I’m just saying the republicans can shout as usual, that any criticism of the “total victory” (withdrawal) is just “TDS that wanted forever war” If you say the withdrawal is a false victory, just as in Vietnam, then surely if you don’t hate America, the US should fight a forever war with Iran, until that complete victory is reached.
the US wants higher oil prices, even though increased costs are fucking murdering the GOP in the polls?
Just as democrat politicians prefer money to winning, so do GOP. Higher oil prices means more money available for GOP. These money have direct line to Trump. If mid terms had any importance to Trump, Trump the Brave would victory retreat in bravest tale ever.
stories that have come out from White House insiders about Trump screaming at Netanyahu on the phone for fucking up his peace process.
Trump is mad/embarassed to be the only dotard president senile enough to fall for Netanyahu BS. Fine, Israel embarasses US’s inability to speak for Israel in peace/MoU concessions, but any anger towards bibi’s control over Epstein Mossad regime over Trump, has deeper causes than bombing Lebannon or Gaza. Just becuase he raises his voice to Master, doesn’t mean he doesn’t eventually obey, and hasn’t caused the victory withdrawal to happen yet.
See, the problem here is that this is just circular reasoning. Like, this…
If mid terms had any importance to Trump, Trump the Brave would victory retreat in bravest tale ever.
Only works because you’re starting from the presumption that Trump can retreat, and then defining your conclusions from that presumption. Same with your arguments about Trump and Bibi. You’re just claiming that you’re right because you’re right.
starting from the presumption that Trump can retreat
Of course he can. Declare victory in the process. You admitted that this would help GOP in midterms. The only conceivable alternative is a sincere respectful peace with Iran, and there is zero chance US establishment/Israel lets that happen. So withdrawal is only possible outcome. The reason for delay is political opportunities/pressures to delay.
Yeah, like I said, this is just fanfiction. You’re not actually listening to or taking in, any new information. You’re just rattling off whatever story you just wrote in your head. Fascinating for you, I’m sure, but not really what I’m here for.
I’m not saying its right because I’m right. I’m making very specific proofs. You need to challenge the proofs instead of hand waving about how you feel it sounds.
I’ve explained the only answer. US/Trump wants oil prices higher, and Israel cares only about damage/endless war with Iran, and not any costs to Americans or world.
Yes spinning total withdrawal as a victory is groundwork Trump laid on 2nd day of war. Mission accomplished. GOP media will reinforce victory. DNC criticism will be pushed back as “Dems just hate America, and want higher oil prices, and endless wars”. Trump simply doesn’t want “victory”, is the only answer.
So “anyone who wants to leave is a traitor who wants higher oil prices” but also the US wants higher oil prices, even though increased costs are fucking murdering the GOP in the polls?
I’m sorry but every part of this is so incoherent that I can’t even begin to follow your reasoning, such as it is.
You’re absolutely right that Israel wants to keep the war going, but seem to be entirely unaware of, for example, the stories that have come out from White House insiders about Trump screaming at Netanyahu on the phone for fucking up his peace process. Really not sure how that squares with your idea that Trump secretly wants the war to continue.
I’m just saying the republicans can shout as usual, that any criticism of the “total victory” (withdrawal) is just “TDS that wanted forever war” If you say the withdrawal is a false victory, just as in Vietnam, then surely if you don’t hate America, the US should fight a forever war with Iran, until that complete victory is reached.
Just as democrat politicians prefer money to winning, so do GOP. Higher oil prices means more money available for GOP. These money have direct line to Trump. If mid terms had any importance to Trump, Trump the Brave would victory retreat in bravest tale ever.
Trump is mad/embarassed to be the only dotard president senile enough to fall for Netanyahu BS. Fine, Israel embarasses US’s inability to speak for Israel in peace/MoU concessions, but any anger towards bibi’s control over Epstein Mossad regime over Trump, has deeper causes than bombing Lebannon or Gaza. Just becuase he raises his voice to Master, doesn’t mean he doesn’t eventually obey, and hasn’t caused the victory withdrawal to happen yet.
See, the problem here is that this is just circular reasoning. Like, this…
Only works because you’re starting from the presumption that Trump can retreat, and then defining your conclusions from that presumption. Same with your arguments about Trump and Bibi. You’re just claiming that you’re right because you’re right.
Of course he can. Declare victory in the process. You admitted that this would help GOP in midterms. The only conceivable alternative is a sincere respectful peace with Iran, and there is zero chance US establishment/Israel lets that happen. So withdrawal is only possible outcome. The reason for delay is political opportunities/pressures to delay.
Yeah, like I said, this is just fanfiction. You’re not actually listening to or taking in, any new information. You’re just rattling off whatever story you just wrote in your head. Fascinating for you, I’m sure, but not really what I’m here for.
I’m not saying its right because I’m right. I’m making very specific proofs. You need to challenge the proofs instead of hand waving about how you feel it sounds.