Once the fringiest of marginal groups, the DSA now has close to 130,000 members, up from 5,000 15 years ago. And its members are winning Democratic primaries across the country.

Megan Romer, national co-chair, said its growth reflected a deep frustration with a system she said was failing young people. “People are, like, well, OK, capitalism’s not working,” she said in an interview. “So what else is there?”

  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    1 day ago

    You didn’t live under Socialism, you lived under an authoritarian government who claimed to be Socialist, but weren’t. Most governments are not what they claim to be.

      • AHamSandwich@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 day ago

        I think you don’t understand this fallacy. Here’s an example.

        Person A: “No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.”
        Person B: “But my uncle Angus is a Scotsman and he puts sugar on his porridge.”
        Person A: “But no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.”

        In this case, Angus actually is a Scotsman, but the person making the claim suggests he is not by using an altered definition based on their argument instead of the commonly accepted definition. The logic is circular.

        This situation is akin to the following:

        Person A: “No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.”
        Person B: “But my uncle Andrew is a Scotsman and he puts sugar on his porridge.”
        Person A: “Your uncle Andrew is a third generation US citizen, descended from one Scottish immigrant grandfather, who makes this ancestry a substantial part of his identity despite having little knowledge of Scottish culture beyond ‘bagpipes, kilts, and haggis’ and what he has seen in movies.”

        It this case, despite identifying as a Scotsman and utilizing some elements of Scottish culture, by the commonly accepted definition he is not a Scotsman, even in part. Therefore, any observations of Scotsmen based on Andrew are likely incorrect.

        For your situation, given there have never been true socialist countries, only mixed systems, it strains credulity to believe that your experience with a mixed system is representative of a true socialist state, just as my experience with labradoodles is unlikely to be representative of Golden Retrievers or poodles.