The thing I take issue with is that now that things finally seem to be turning around
They aren’t turning around. They’re getting much much worse. The hill Dems have to climb in '26 is so much higher than in '18 or '06 or '92.
The stakes are higher. Which means Dems have more to win in the long run, if they can take control of a failing economy and deliver on reforms they’ve been promising since the 1940s.
But after Clinton and then Obama and then Biden all pooched historic opportunities, faith in the establishment is at an all time low.
So instead of saying Dems don’t have the numbers, why not say “this is why it’s so important to vote in November”?
Because it’s hack, for starters. Which year was voting not important?
And because it ignores what is being voted for.
If you’re putting up another class of Blue Dogs and Neocons, the country is fucked no matter who wins. The policies won’t change, just the branding.
Talking about who actually makes up the Democrat Party is more important than talking about Voting Blue No Matter Who. Dems could sweep every available seat in November and still flounder next January.
Just look at what happened to Starmer’s Labour Party. Historic win. Massive popular mandate. All anyone got was Fascism Lite. They paved the way for Nigel Farrage.
Yes but you’re not considering this within the context that 1), the democratic base is increasingly turning to progressives and demsocs, who are picking up a lot of slack and gaining political momentum; 2), republicans are slated for punishing defeats across the country if we all just turn up and vote (and overcome any funny business that they attempt); and 3), the entire topic of this post is that the DNC now supports abolishing ICE
Yes but you’re not considering this within the context
We’re seeing a nascent movement with a Tea Party sized constituency that is struggling against a massive undercurrent of hostile corporate media and institutional support.
We’ve seen it before - during OWS and BLM and the Bush Era anti-war movement and the 80s environmental movement and the 60s civil rights movement.
Contexts change. That’s how we got here to begin with.
the DNC now supports abolishing ICE
A plurality of members currently say they support abolishing ICE while they have no control over national policy.
What do local governors and mayors think? My own Houston-Area Dem Mayor has been working hand-in-glove with Greg Abbott and Ken Paxton to conduct mass arrests and fill up prisons full of migrant people. That’s in between the odd ICE shooting.
Our liberal City Council greenlit Flock Cameras. Our local House Reps have been championing genocide at home and abroad with their legislative votes and organizing actions.
Contexts change. That’s how we got here to begin with.
Yes and I’m talking about the current context.
The party and the people are not aligned.
Then primary those establishment members of the party. Right-wing populists successfully subverted the GOP and took control of the party. Do you want to pretend left-wing populists can’t do the same to the Dems?
They aren’t turning around. They’re getting much much worse. The hill Dems have to climb in '26 is so much higher than in '18 or '06 or '92.
The stakes are higher. Which means Dems have more to win in the long run, if they can take control of a failing economy and deliver on reforms they’ve been promising since the 1940s.
But after Clinton and then Obama and then Biden all pooched historic opportunities, faith in the establishment is at an all time low.
Because it’s hack, for starters. Which year was voting not important?
And because it ignores what is being voted for.
If you’re putting up another class of Blue Dogs and Neocons, the country is fucked no matter who wins. The policies won’t change, just the branding.
Talking about who actually makes up the Democrat Party is more important than talking about Voting Blue No Matter Who. Dems could sweep every available seat in November and still flounder next January.
Just look at what happened to Starmer’s Labour Party. Historic win. Massive popular mandate. All anyone got was Fascism Lite. They paved the way for Nigel Farrage.
My wife has taken to saying “vote blue BECAUSE of who” and I like it.
Yes but you’re not considering this within the context that 1), the democratic base is increasingly turning to progressives and demsocs, who are picking up a lot of slack and gaining political momentum; 2), republicans are slated for punishing defeats across the country if we all just turn up and vote (and overcome any funny business that they attempt); and 3), the entire topic of this post is that the DNC now supports abolishing ICE
We’re seeing a nascent movement with a Tea Party sized constituency that is struggling against a massive undercurrent of hostile corporate media and institutional support.
We’ve seen it before - during OWS and BLM and the Bush Era anti-war movement and the 80s environmental movement and the 60s civil rights movement.
Contexts change. That’s how we got here to begin with.
A plurality of members currently say they support abolishing ICE while they have no control over national policy.
What do local governors and mayors think? My own Houston-Area Dem Mayor has been working hand-in-glove with Greg Abbott and Ken Paxton to conduct mass arrests and fill up prisons full of migrant people. That’s in between the odd ICE shooting.
Our liberal City Council greenlit Flock Cameras. Our local House Reps have been championing genocide at home and abroad with their legislative votes and organizing actions.
The party and the people are not aligned.
Yes and I’m talking about the current context.
Then primary those establishment members of the party. Right-wing populists successfully subverted the GOP and took control of the party. Do you want to pretend left-wing populists can’t do the same to the Dems?