• Shanmugha@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Oh, so you are from one of my favourite gangs - “terminal is scary and a no-go”. Okay, I am yet in a good mood, so

    apt, pacman etc are all commands that require a minimal understanding of the terminal, and the average person does not have that

    they don’t require that. “open terminal, type this incantation, press enter” requires zero knowledge of how any of that works. Also, “average person” is wildly different depending on where it is measured

    Regular users just want it to update itself in the background

    Bullshit. You ever seen threads of how windows users hate its forced updates fuckery?

    The only thing they understand about “apt upgrade -u” is the word ‘upgrade’ - the rest might as well be ancient sumerian to them

    So let it be sumerian. Only thing anyone cares about is they know how to use it

    Even remembering the short phrase is infinitely more complex than pressing a clearly labelled button

    First - bullshit. Second - “clearly labeled” my ass, because human language is not maths, any text can be understood very differently depending on a number of things

    You will never convert a single user by trying to convince them to use any form of CLI over a GUI

    That made me chuckle. Go on, give me more insights about my life, it is so funny

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      See, you’re so deep in the sauce you’ve lost all perspective; A normal user isn’t getting as far as “type this incantation” - the one they won’t remember and will have to look up each time - because they’re going to give you a blank look when you tell them to open the terminal. I know this because I work with regular users ever day and get blank looks for much simpler questions.

      windows users hate its forced updates fuckery

      No, windows users hate the constant restarting for updates, if it all happened in the background they wouldn’t even notice. Just look at Mint.

      Only thing anyone cares about is they know how to use it

      They don’t even remember it, never mind know how to use it. That’s the whole point.

      human language is not maths, any text can be understood very differently depending on a number of things

      This is sophistic and stupid, humans don’t speak maths and “apt update -U” isn’t maths either. If you’re so desperate you’re reaching for “words don’t mean anything akshully” you already know you’re wrong.

      give me more insights about my life

      You are not a user, you are a power user like me and everyone else in this thread. Regular users don’t go online to discuss their OS. It’s the height of narcissism to think you’re the person being talked about here.

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        I like your honesty. So let’s go further with this:

        See, you’re so deep in the sauce you’ve lost all perspective;

        No, that’s true for you: what your average computer user is, that’s what you think anyone not proficient with computers is. News flash: “average person” is wildly different depending on where it is measured ©

        No, windows users hate the constant restarting for updates, if it all happened in the background they wouldn’t even notice. Just look at Mint.

        So, updates (edit: reboot) are needed for it to work properly. What was your point again?

        This is sophistic and stupid

        No, this is something anyone paying attention to words knows.

        If you’re so desperate you’re reaching for “words don’t mean anything akshully” you already know you’re wrong

        Lol. I already know I am right, having spent years learning languages

        You are not a user, you are a power user like me and everyone else in this thread. Regular users don’t go online to discuss their OS. It’s the height of narcissism to think you’re the person being talked about here.

        True, I am a power user. So I am not using arguments like “if I can do it, anyone can”. Also not true, the “think you’re the person being talked about here” is your invention about my thoughts. You did not disappoint, thank you