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      7 days ago

      Yes, then (as expected) the companies passed on the cost to their customers.

      If there were a competitive marketplace, retailers would be offering refunds to their customers or putting on huge deals so that annoyed customers didn’t switch to a rival retailer.

      But, when Amazon has some massive chunk of the market, what happens if they piss off a customer? What are they going to do, go to the mall? The mall closed a long time ago.

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      Incorrect. There was a famous trendy video of an individual who was told to receive their package they had to pay UPS at drop off for the fees from the tariffs. The delivery driver even understood people weren’t happy.

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        This is dependent on how you order. If your buying from overseas and importing you have to pay tarrifs (most of the time, some sellers offer to sort that for you and reflect it in pricing). I have ordered many a part from the UK, India, Australia and japan. All out of country sellers required I deal with customs, except for the stuff from Australia that states they would cover the exporting for me! But yes if you bought from a us based retailer, the retailer imported and already paid the tarrifs for you. But wait, I didn’t pay the tarrifs! I paid DHL to deal with the tarrifs for me so DHL actually is who gets a refund not me. Suppose I’ll just go fuck myself.

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        They still weren’t paying the tarrifs though, they were reimbursing them. If they were truly paying them they would have paid the government not UPS.

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          So anyways, as I said, consumers and corporations paid the tariffs. It all depends on how it was purchased.

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            If you paid FedEx or UPS then you did not pay the tarrifs directly. They paid the terrifs, you reimbursed them. So they will get them back. It’s seeming like a lot of people who reimbursed companies for tarrifs think they actually directly paid terrifs themselves.

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              You said there is no instance that a consumer paid tariffs. FedEx and UPS are the ones who ship what you paid for, yes.

              If YOU personally order something internationally and it is subject to applicable duties, when it arrives at customs, customs/carrier procedures can require you to pay the import duty before receiving the package, or it will remain in their custody until YOU pay the dues.

              So, anyways, as I have said, it is not JUST corporations who paid the tariffs.

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                I understand what you’re saying, but when you pay that import duty, are you paying customs directly? Or are you paying UPS to pay customs?

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                Right, but who did you pay it to? If you paid Customs directly, you paid the terrifs, of you paid UPS they paid they tarrif and you just reimbursed them. There’s an important difference.

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                  There is no important difference. You just acknowledged that depending on who you paid, depends on if you paid the tariffs. I like that your goal post has wheels so you can keep moving it.

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                    Yes there is an important difference. If you paid customs you paid the terrifs and you get the refund. If you paid UPS, you reimbursed ups for the tarrif they paid to customs, and they get the refund.

                    The difference is who gets the refund, that’s the whole thing we’re talking about.