• OwOarchist@pawb.social
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    5 months ago

    Feeling safe isn’t the point of having guns.

    The point is to make your oppressors feel unsafe.

  • Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 months ago

    Conservatives want guns to protect themselves from a bunch of DEI boogymen that don’t exist. The left is buying guns to protect themselves from the boogymen that are currently publicly stripping away/violating their rights while doing multiple genocides.

    Trying to act like the two groups are the same makes you either a boldfaced liar or an idiot. But hey, at least you get to be smugly superior with your snappy little meme.

  • Really a question of whether you still trust the state apparatus to protect you and your loved ones from physical violence. For the right, the need to protect themselves was never anything but a bogeyman dreamt up by gun manufacturers and racist opportunists. The calculus may well differ for other folks given the current state of things and the lessons one might draw from history.

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    5 months ago

    Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered. Any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

  • Sharkticon@lemmy.zip
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    Liberals never want leftists owning guns cause when liberals send Pinkertons to murder us they don’t want us fighting back.

  • DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Eh.

    I’m a liberal and I’m getting one because the writing on the wall indicates our democracy is coming to an end and things are about to get a whole lot less safe.

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      5 months ago

      FYI, it took me around six months of regular range time and a class to feel comfortable carrying.

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        5 months ago

        The best time to get a gun and start training with it is 6 months ago.

        The 2nd best time is now.

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    This meme assumes liberals, or the left broadly construed, view guns in the same way.

    Conservatives want to bring their AR-15 into Burger King, because they view guns as a sort of magic totem of protection.

    Of the left gun owners I know, liberals, Anarchists, Marxists, etc. They have a far more grounded view of guns, and see them much more for the tool that they are.

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        5 months ago

        A claw hammer would be a better option than a gun. Why does everyone assume that a gun would be the best thing to defend yourself with in all situations.

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                5 months ago

                I can grab it at a moments notice as it can safely be left out, you don’t have to load it or aim it so using it is fast and simple. If its my home they’re invading I know where to hide. I trust my ability to swing and hit someone in a panic far more than I do my ability to handle a gun under the same pressure. Its just going to be easier and more reliable to hit someones head with a hammer than it will be to shoot them.

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                  it can safely be left out

                  Honestly, I wouldn’t leave hammers lying around where kids could get to them any more than guns. The hammer will be less deadly, sure, but a dumb kid will still cause a lot of damage with it.

                  you don’t have to load it

                  True

                  or aim it

                  False, lol. You out there protecting yourself with unaimed hammer swings?

                  I trust my ability to swing and hit someone in a panic far more than I do my ability to handle a gun under the same pressure.

                  Skill issue. Requires training time.

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      Guns are literally an oppressive force. The second amendment people are ready to kill those who try to stop ICE or change the government in a way they don’t like. Their threat is literally murder, but sure more guns will solve this problem.

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          Semantics. There are more guns in the US than people in the US. Guns are an oppressive force themselves in these extreme circumstances.

          No different than having land mines all over at this point. People die needlessly due to proliferation thus creating an oppressive force without 2nd amendment gun nutters.

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            People aren’t claiming that they love guns, or gun violence. The point is that gun reform is dead for the foreseeable future. And since we are all forced to live in a society with gun proliferation, it makes sense that fascist shouldn’t be the only ones with guns.

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    It’s not going to make you safer. Best you can hope for is to take some of the motherfuckers with you when they come for you.

      • OwOarchist@pawb.social
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        There’s a lot more of us than there are of them.

        If even 10% of us take one of them down with us, they’ll run out of door-kickers very quickly.

        (Even more so because a lot of their door-kickers are cowards and would quickly abandon the fight if they thought they were actually in danger.)