What circumstances led to someone voting for trump?
Propaganda and bigotry.
And there’s no excuse for either. Obviously there’s no excuse for bigotry, but even propaganda has no excuse. You gonna believe everything the commercials on TV tell you your entire life? You gonna send that Nigerian prince your entire life savings? Sounds like a you problem if so.
Any adult making an effort to behave responsibly isn’t going to fall for propaganda, especially the dogshit stupid propaganda the right cooks up. Especially over the course of a decade as the rest of the world dumps mountains of facts on you to let you know you’re falling for propaganda.
voting doesn’t fix the underlying system and can only achieve marginal improvements
Voting can fix the underlying system, marginally, over time. The catch is that the populace can’t be stupid and has to vote intelligently over time to allow that to happen. Democracy can’t be a well oiled machine if stupid people are gumming up the works.
Ostracizing people based on their vote is not a proper solution
That’s entirely dependent on the situation. You gonna go back in time and choose not to ostracize German citizens that supported the Nazi regime? Enough time has passed since Trumpism became a thing and enough events have unfolded and enough facts have come to light NOT to ostracize the people that keep supporting it. This isn’t funny meme shit anymore. Our economy is tanking, our rights have been infringed, our international reputation has been tarnished, American citizens have been illegally detained and EXECUTED, etc etc etc.
People are more likely to reinforce their existing beliefs if met with heavy resistance.
Not sure how many conservatives (regressives) you’ve interacted with. I’m here to assure you that no interaction with them, however nice or mean, is going to change their allegiance. If that was going to happen, it already would have. I’ve been watching conservatives for decades now and they will not change. I guarantee it. The only situation in which they’ll change is if their decisions start SERIOUSLY backfiring and significantly affecting them personally. And even then, they’ll resort to blaming liberals/democrats before they acknowledge their own mistakes and change themselves.
Also the party war is distracting from the actual class war.
There’s absolutely a class war. But when one party is REPEATEDLY AND OPENLY VIOLATING THE CONSTITUTION in favor of a felon rapist traitor, then the party war is very much a real thing and a real threat.
Look, the Confederacy was a real threat to the United States of America. Now conservatives/regressives are. They must be dealt with and the nice way isn’t going to work. Clearly.
Propaganda and bigotry.
And there’s no excuse for either. Obviously there’s no excuse for bigotry, but even propaganda has no excuse. You gonna believe everything the commercials on TV tell you your entire life? You gonna send that Nigerian prince your entire life savings? Sounds like a you problem if so.
Any adult making an effort to behave responsibly isn’t going to fall for propaganda, especially the dogshit stupid propaganda the right cooks up. Especially over the course of a decade as the rest of the world dumps mountains of facts on you to let you know you’re falling for propaganda.
Voting can fix the underlying system, marginally, over time. The catch is that the populace can’t be stupid and has to vote intelligently over time to allow that to happen. Democracy can’t be a well oiled machine if stupid people are gumming up the works.
That’s entirely dependent on the situation. You gonna go back in time and choose not to ostracize German citizens that supported the Nazi regime? Enough time has passed since Trumpism became a thing and enough events have unfolded and enough facts have come to light NOT to ostracize the people that keep supporting it. This isn’t funny meme shit anymore. Our economy is tanking, our rights have been infringed, our international reputation has been tarnished, American citizens have been illegally detained and EXECUTED, etc etc etc.
Not sure how many conservatives (regressives) you’ve interacted with. I’m here to assure you that no interaction with them, however nice or mean, is going to change their allegiance. If that was going to happen, it already would have. I’ve been watching conservatives for decades now and they will not change. I guarantee it. The only situation in which they’ll change is if their decisions start SERIOUSLY backfiring and significantly affecting them personally. And even then, they’ll resort to blaming liberals/democrats before they acknowledge their own mistakes and change themselves.
There’s absolutely a class war. But when one party is REPEATEDLY AND OPENLY VIOLATING THE CONSTITUTION in favor of a felon rapist traitor, then the party war is very much a real thing and a real threat.
Look, the Confederacy was a real threat to the United States of America. Now conservatives/regressives are. They must be dealt with and the nice way isn’t going to work. Clearly.