• Valthorn@feddit.nu
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    3 days ago

    Either way, he is the most american American in history. He is the essence of your wretched country. You may strive to be something better, but this is who you are.

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      Not really any different than so many other countries taken over by bullies. Humans suck everywhere - it’s just a matter of when in history (or future history) you chose to look that you catch some being worse than others at that moment. Jump to another time, and the game of musical chairs will have the bullies sitting somewhere else, but still doing the same shit.

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      3 days ago

      Thanks for the pointless generalized hatred. Really helps us get better, being hated by assholes on the Internet.

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        3 days ago

        Please note this is not directed at you personally as I’m sure you are a good person on an individual level.

        Speaking as a Canadian I, and many of us, are absolutely fed up of your bullshit because regardless of if you personally voted for that shithead and every other shithead around him like Lutnick or Hoefstra this is who the country wants representing them.

        This is also not new behaviour. We have known for decades we are attached to a big brother we love dearly but also happens to run a meth lab in their house and beats their wife.

        You need help. Honest to God you need help. Yet all your country can do is punch down and wail about the rest of the world not bending over when you tell it to.

        We tried helping you get better. We continue to try because we love you. But Jesus Christ get your shit together.

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          You cannot both generalize all of this and also not direct it at members of the group. America is fucked, and telling the people most aware and most upset by it that they’re fucked isn’t helping. Oh you didn’t direct it at me? Do you want me to force magats to read this comment? I’ll never understand the point in this kind of conversation. The effect is literally nothing but rubbing it in while being self righteous.

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            3 days ago

            How could we not care? You’re our brother after all. But it hurts a lot so much that yes we are making distance now. Not because we stopped caring, but it hurts us as well.

            Regardless of what people think about Carney or Pollievre the numbers show average Canadians are not going to America anymore and average Canadians want to distance ourselves from America.

            Americans writ large are not aware of the generational damage being wrecked on their nation. This will take decades if not centuries to heal at best and may never return to what it once was.

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          I used to see value in Canadian Moralism. Now I just see it self righteous high horsing. Their claim to political fame, Pierre Trudeau, has had every remaining thread of dignity shredded by his son.

          Canadians have decided it is sufficient to make their single standpoint “well at least we’re not Americans”. And submitted themselves to being easily manipulated media puppets who no longer know their “big brother” because they believe everything their manipulative parents tell about him.

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      It really sucks because there are some core ideas that are really nice, completely overshadowed by the country’s terrible behavior. The things we were led to believe about ourselves in school would make for a genuinely good society. The secularism, multiculturalism, access to opportunity, many freedoms beyond reproach, etc. Our leaders have for centuries now talked about these and still mostly failed to deliver.

      Well that’s on all of us, but given the outsized influence of the rich, I’m happy to shirk much of our responsibility onto them.

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      3 days ago

      Ha, you are going to fall too. You aren’t special, this is a worldwide fascist coup.

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        Never said differently. Like you said, we aren’t any more special than anybody else.

        There is a chance we’ll make it through this better than we were, however. Progressives have been on a roll since Mamdani won NYC mayor late last year. Hopefully that continues until there are enough in place to displace the establishment politicians and make REAL changes that work for everybody.