• yesman@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Trying to compare Valve to Sony on the basis of pro/anti-customer basis is a great way to embarrass yourself. Yea, Valve doesn’t have disks, so they’re the same right?

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      Valve is far from perfect but I for one still have access to the movies I bought on Steam even after they delisted them. They’re winning again by doing literally nothing.

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      I have had one problem game on steam I lost access to. Sort of. and it was an EA game I bought on steam. But then now it’s no longer on steam.

      Last time I tried I was able to play it on the EA app.

      I can’t recall exactly how but I was able to link the steam purchase to EA app.

      American McGee’s Alice return

      Solid game.

      EA really screwed over American McGee. Refuse to sell him the rights to his own ip but also won’t let him or anyone else make a sequel.

      Idk if there was other games EA did this to on steam but I only have the EA app for this one game. I replay it every now and then. Old favorite.

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      Yep, forgoing the previous reply you nonces had the mods remove, let’s double down. Yeah, it makes them just, as, bad.

      If it makes you blind to capitalistic policies and makes you trust a literal billionare, then I’m not the one who should be embarassed.

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      Embarassing yourself as a blind fanboy is way better. It’s okay if proton linux man(the market he sold you) does it, draw a line.

      I am dying on this fucking hill. Let the rain pour. If you can’t see past a dude who owns a fleet of yachts as your own personal Jesus, you need some help.

      Both companies, both vindictive. Quit being a choosy rioter.

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        it’s okay to take a break from the internet if it makes you feel that way and say things like this

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        Valve is in the same position of power, or an even greater position of power, as Sony. But Valve has never (to my knowledge) removed games from customers’ libraries without compensation. Valve has the track record of not abusing their position of power to the detriment of gamers.

        Personally, I still don’t like the amount of power they do hold, which is why I prefer to get my games from GOG when I can. But historically, Valve is not anti-consumer. Valve/Gaben are no angels, they have their fair share of billionaire behavior, but there is simply no comparison with Sony.

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            Yeah this was the point I was about to say myself. It’s not that Valve has me stanning them at all, but rather the experience has been the same since Steam’s inception in 2003. I go to their Store, I buy the game (but really the game licence, now that we’re more aware), I download it, and play it. Games almost never get removed from your library unless they find them to be malicious (I bought a key for Prey 2006 on eBay years after delisting and was playing it within an hour), so it’s been rather reassuring that money spent is value retained in perpetuity until proven otherwise.

            If Valve starts making the same terrible decisions though, they can receive the same pitchfork brigade as everyone else.

            I do pay attention to what I’m actually buying now that I’m older and more knowledgeable about licensing, but don’t let FUD ruin your experience as a gamer. Just keep your ear to the ground for any terrible policy changes.

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        Maybe I’m missing a tick here. But with valve you can just copy the game and use it, right? You don’t need the steam launcher. Unless the game itself has DRM, of course.

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          Steam has DRM. But there are 3rd party programs that can bypass that DRM. So if you have the game downloaded, then you will be able to play your games forever, even if valve goes under and the internet breaks. You’ll technically be pirating the game at that point, but I personally have no qualms with that.