• daannii@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    I’m betting it was Israel told them to target this spot right there. And they did without questions.

    They knew it was a school. Everyone knew it was a school.

    • phutatorius@lemmy.zip
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      4 days ago

      Trump has repeatedly talked about wanting to target the families of enemy leaders. Netanyahu and the IDF have a long record of killing children as well as other noncombatants. So I find it implausible that this was a mistake, unless the “disjointedness” is a way of saying that Grok is not deeply integrated with real intelligence systems, and that’s what they used, because they’re not only murderous thugs, but idiots.

  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 days ago

    Wait wasn’t the original story that Iran launched a tomahawk, that it could not possibly have, at itself?

  • KelvarCherry [They/Them]@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    8 days ago

    Don’t buy the “accident” cover-up. What about the USA/Israeli treatment of Muslim-majority Middle East countries makes anyone think the USA/Israel wouldn’t want to blow up an elementary school and kill 120 kids? Is the ongoing murder of Palestinian civilians including children also a series of accidents? And what about the orphanage?

    Opting into their preferred language only creates a semblance of doubt that the USA will use to move past this murder so their “disjointed” systems can blow up another group of civilians.

    • EvilBit@lemmy.world
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      8 days ago

      I think it’s important to at least begin with a minimally presumptive stance to avoid engaging in false rhetoric. That it was an accidental war crime is still utterly heinous. We can express doubt about it being an accident, but we should examine it from the “best case” angle first before tackling that separately.

      • phutatorius@lemmy.zip
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        4 days ago

        Looking at recent precedent and using that to assess probabilities of current motives and actions is inductive reasoning, not “engaging in false rhetoric.”

        And another bit of induction is worthwhile: when someone lies to you tens of thousands of time, what possible reason would you have to assume they’re telling the truth this time, especially when it contradicts their own previous statements and actions, such as changing rules of engagement to disregard civilian casualties when selecting targets, or advocating a policy of killing the families of foreign leaders?

      • KelvarCherry [They/Them]@piefed.blahaj.zone
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        6 days ago

        Calling it an accident just lays the carpet for the Department of WAR to request more money for “training” and “better equipment” (to kill more civilians including children).

        I don’t want the US government to have better tools for killing people in the Middle East. I want the US government to stop killing people in the Middle East. We gain nothing by taking them at their word.

        Keep in mind that this was declared an Iranian attack by the USA before the USA labeled in an “accident”. Push harder and they’ll probably use Israeli’s argument about “human shields” to blame Iran again.

  • Bakkoda@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    The new American Exceptionalism: We can’t spell and we don’t know what we’re bombing.

    New package but the same old bullshit.

    • HumanBeing@mastodon.social
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      8 days ago

      @Bakkoda @Deep Expected and yes, same old lies.

      Someone could start a fake betting pool (not I) when stupids do something. We can bet on what’s next and I’m betting we’re all right. It’s like seeing a bad movie everywhere repeatedly.

  • bradinutah@thelemmy.club
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    Current U.S. targeting doctrine holds military commanders responsible for prioritizing targets and distinguishing civilian sites. An optional target-vetting process exists to assess the accuracy of intelligence prior to strikes.

    It remains unclear whether Centcom initiated this vetting process for operations against Iran.>

    Sounds rushed, lazy, or both. Either way, the whole operation is a political embarrassment and an undignified war crime. Huge mistake to attack Iran like this. Bigger mistake to kill children and then be so callous about it. Kegsbreath’s and the Donvict’s behavior are shameful.