Pen-testing is part of good security…
…but let’s be real, anyone who believes Trump won’t exploit this rather than patch it is delusional.
Lock him up.
That would make sense, if it wasn’t because he is likely to drop dead any time now. Motherfucker looks like he already died but nobody is willing to tell him.
He tried to grab the Furies by the pus*y and they sent him back
Both GW Bush in 2000, and Trump in 2016, lost the popular vote yet won the electoral college. They went on to appoint the conservative majority to the Supreme Court. The system has already been subverted with no meaningful attempts at reform.
Yeah, this election is gonna be stolen for sure… And guess what, Muricans will do nothing about it. They will throw their hands in the air and say “well, I tried”.
They already should have done something when their brain dead / brainwashed compatriots elected a CHILD-RAPING FELON, but nope. Sure, he was (possibly) “fairly” elected, that doesn’t mean you can’t show your “dissatisfaction” for it.
I never understand the point of the “But he was elected fairly” angle. So was Vladimir Putin as far as anyone can tell, so was Adolf Hitler, so was Stalin, the only major dictator of the last century that I can think of that definitely seized power through illegitimate means is Castro I suppose you could also make an argument for the CCP but certain people refute that.
Most dictators become dictators over time, the vast majority don’t grab power from a legitimate government because they would instantly have a fight on their hands. Usually that only happens with the US’s assistance.
Tolerance requires intolerance against intolerance.
Democracy needs a fast and sure actions against dictators and fascists, not soft words and long tedious processes
This pedophile wants to be Porfirio Diaz soooo bad
Uplifting: He already looks like a cadaver.
Absolutely.
I read a story yesterday about Dolly Parton’s sister and a few others saying they watched their votes for a democrat switch to the republican candidate before their eyes. She said she had to try it 3 times before it registered the correct vote. Though I have no more information than that I find this extremely troubling knowing with certainty that Trump and his enablers are completely willing to do this and worse in order to stay in power. Pay very close attention when you’re voting.
That isn’t really what is at risk, that’s just a MAGA poll worker deliberately sabotaging the touch screen calibration. It might be an attempt at election theft, but what Trump is seeking to do is much more covert and you won’t even notice it. They will try to see if and where they can flip the tallies and mess with the paper trail if there is any, and that’s only on one of the levels he will be trying to steal the midterms.
Is there confirmation that’s what happened? It’s certainly a valid theory but all I’ve seen about the two cases I read was speculation.
It’s an informed assumption based on historical precedent and the combination of plausible deniability with level of ease to implement that only statistics can really disprove as anything but speculation. There’s also less eyes this time around because independent observers like OSCE have been prevented from participating.
These issues are nothing new, but are so old some of the articles that have discussed them in the past are no longer even accessible:
https://verifiedvoting.org/vote-flipping-and-touch-screen-calibration/
Why do it in secret. Def con does it as sport.
Independent testing of voting machines and open sourcing the vulnerabilities in order to get them patched, is a good idea.
Unfortunately, we all know what the Trump Regime actually intends to do: Keep the vulnerabilities in their pocket, and use them to secure “victories”.
Also to discredit and/or try to nullify a not-so-favorable election outcome afterwards.
Yeah i agree. It’s a search for a half-truth they can base an argument on, but classify enough info around it to make it difficult to challenge or investigate.
Don’t they have voting machines every year at DEFCON?
I feel like this is already been litigated.
“Mitigated”, but yes, that’s a good point. I’m sure it was put through its paces there.
Oh, it’s been litigated alright: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Voting_Systems_v._Fox_News_Network
True! I forgot about that.
I figured they meant technologically mitigated but you’re right they could’ve meant legally litigated.
No that’s a different word.
Litigated, means to have already discussed and arrived at an answer.
Mitigated, means a solution is already in place. No one’s fixed the issue so it’s litigated, but not mitigated.
I meant what I said.
It’s totally fine though. Since no one in America has the balls to do anything about it- it’s legal.
The land of the questionably free and not so often brave.
The land of the once free and somewhat brave, but it was quite a lag time ago.
Careful, they LOVE to get really fucking defensive and shitty about their cowardice.
They’re the elephant that was tied to a stake as a baby
They have accepted their fate and are resigned to being fucked over
So they hate the people around them, rather than the cunts who put in the stake
Oh I know too well.
The administration wanted a voting machine hacked, but DOGE had already fired the experts capable of doing it. Apparently the one thing stopping a potential election conspiracy was Elon Musk’s ability to make government incompetent at absolutely everything. Task failed successfully.
Wtf… you talking about 12 y/os have cracked voting machi… wait trump administration, nevermind.
They just went private
Or so þe Trumpers would have you believe.
Why do these people with fucked up keyboards persist in the fediverse
They think it helps prevent their comments from being used by LLMs or “poisons” them.
It should be obvious why that would never had been a thing from day one. But now, ironically, their use of it reinforces “þ” as a substitute so it’s prob been years since it’s needed to be in pre-training code too.
It’s quite literally a tinfoil hat.
This is probably the least harmful tinfoil hat on the internet.
Honestly, I don’t get why people are so aggressive towards Sxan. If it bugs you, just block them and be on your way. The first time I saw the thorn it was a curiosity. Once I knew what the intended purpose was it was easy to just shrug and move on. I’ve actually gotten used to it now and its not an inconvenience at all to read.
Constantly harassing someone because they fancy the use of a non-standard character in their comments is ludicrous behaviour, especially since we all have the tools to filter posts/users from our feeds at will; a few clicks and you never have to worry about it again.
No one’s being aggressive, harassing, or being bothered. Just pointing out what it is.
I mean, you just basically said the same thing yourself 🤷
A desire and need for more vodka
They might just be a fan of the letter thorn (þ):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJxKyh9e5_A
https://www.tiktok.com/@robwords/video/6925843027462278406?lang=en
I think people just like to bitch about þorn. You know what it says, so what’s þe issue?
þere’s so much þorn on þe Internet þese days, it might be out of control.
November 2023 repeat with another minor update.
Normally vulnerability testing would be a good thing, but in this case I think it’s safe to assume the worst motivations for it.
Voting machines are vulnerable just like any other machine, and have been proven time and time again that they’re not particularly difficult to hack. DEF CON has been doing it for almost ten years at this point. First time in 2017, with lots of articles covering it. The year after even TIME reported about how an 11 year old did it. In 2024 they got some attention again due to Trump going for second term. But I don’t think much came of it…
The US is a flawed democracy, and has been on a steady decline for years.
I worry that comments like this can degrade the confidence in the system.
States run their own elections and they’re usually administered at the county level. I can’t speak for any other county but the way we do elections here are legit. This system is audited and administered by bipartisan teams. During elections I work with people from different parties and facilitate a system to ensure our voting process maintains integrity.
If you don’t know how elections are administered where you live I encourage you to take an interest and get involved. We all have a duty here to oversee that we are administering elections with integrity.
The system is made up of many components, and voting machines are but one part. Even though they might be hackable in various ways, there are much more efficient ways these days to sway an election. The Cambridge Analytics scandal proved one efficient way, while there’s now a growing belief that whoever controls the social media algorithm effectively controls public opinion.
And don’t get me started on the two-party-system in the US…So no need to hack the machines, really. The system is flawed/corrupt elsewhere more severely.
What about my voice? Can that be hacked? And my heart?
I’m sorry to say this to you. It wasn’t difficult to make a voting machine in 2011. What we have are fraud machines. It’s just politically impossible to make a secure voting machine, even though it’s technically trivial.
Most democracies do not use voting machines because it’s impossible to trust anyone with creating and maintaining it.
If there is a way to change the vote tallies, then clever people will use it to enrich themselves.
The only way to circumvent most cheating is by paper ballots recounted manually in front of representatives of all candidates: recounted as many times as asked; and the ballots must be kept in public view until a winner is declared.
Putting the ballots into any other device negates some or all of the above.
And I would only have to say this in American political posts. But Americans are married to voting in ways that cannot be verified, except in some states. So most likely what’s seen as common sense in most of the world is either ignored or viewed with suspicion here.
Ask any student in the uk though; and I’m just echoing what has been taught in school to young children
thats why red states are solely using it as the majority, they know it is rigged to favor them.
funny how the machines are solelyused in only republican areas. in the west its all paper ballots. wether thats from mail in or in person.
Maybe it’s more: funny how areas that use voting machines come up Republican.
