• Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    the original point that guy made wasn’t pro-russia, it was anti-unipolar dominance. it’s not even an uncommon anti-imperialist position and has nothing to do with defending whatever ‘the kremlin’ does.

    you then jumped to calling him a russian for saying that ‘western democracy’ is a bourgeois dictatorship evolving into open fascism.

    so in defense of your preferred hegemon you jump to dehumanizing him. you already have been by calling everyone on my server bots and making veiled wishes for users to get drone struck. you really seem incapable of self-reflection. certainly not beating the allegations about where ‘western democracy’ is headed with defenders like you.

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      3 days ago

      You’re severely distorting the context of this conversation, and the only people left in this thread seem to be you and your brigade of .mls anyway, so I see little point in continuing to try reasoning with you.

      But once again, to set the record straight, I called you all trolls, not bots. I don’t know where you got that from. And I didn’t wish for anyone to get drone striked, I simply expressed a hope that the next datacenter to get hit takes down a noticeable portion of troll accounts. If you’re literally anywhere other than a russian datacenter/troll farm, then that comment expresses absolutely zero ill-will towards you. So I don’t know why you’re acting so upset about it, after all didn’t you claim to not be located in russia?

      And I never defended western hegemony or the resurgence of fascism we’re seeing in the west (which, by the way, is funded by russia and enabled by widespread russian disinformation networks contributing to foreign election interference). I simply criticized russia for subverting western democracy, i.e. by funding those fascist reactionary parties, which results in those democracies degrading further into russia-esque fascist oligarchies.

      If you couldn’t see that that’s what I was saying and not your grotesque distortion, then you’re not engaging in good faith. Nobody could be that genuinely dense.

      Also, “anti-unipolar dominance” is essentially the talking point I often see used to justify authoritarian regimes that happen to be non-western. So no, I see right through that BS dissembling as it’s patently transparent.

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        western fascism has plenty of indigneous roots, the amount that russia spends is a drop in the bucket. it is a convenient way for you to avoid examining how capitalism produces fascism domestically. everything can just get blamed on your state adversary and anyone pushing back must clearly just be under foreign influence

        the only people left in this thread seem to be you and your brigade of .mls anyway, so I see little point in continuing to try reasoning with you.

        god forbid we use the website we’re on, clearly anything opposed to you must be coordinated foreigners

        then you’re not engaging in good faith.

        you weren’t engaging in good faith from the start, you literally were calling all of us russian bots and hoping our ‘datacenter’ gets drone striked.

        So no, I see right through that BS dissembling as it’s patently transparent.

        you are just defending your preferred type of authoritarian regime and cannot comprehend when people supporting the lesser evil in a fucked up situation end up opposing you.

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          2 days ago

          Calling russia the “lesser evil” is fucking hilarious.

          And if you’re not a fucking bot then I wasn’t talking about you, so why are you taking it so personally when I say “fuck those bots”?

          Also, for the zillionth time, I said trolls, not bots. Was that a fucking freudian slip?

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            why are you taking it so personally when I say “fuck those bots”?

            a significant portion of the .ml user base are either russian trolls, or russian-sympathizing trolls. I wasn’t “wishing anyone who disagrees with me would get drone-striked.” I was saying “I hope these drone-strikes targeting troll-farming datacenters take a noticable portion of troll accounts offline.”

            Your usage appears interchangeable.

            I find the speed with which you jump to dehumanization interesting